aperture sight for a savage 22 LR

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I have been shooting for a while just never very seriously i have a Savage bolt action 22 LR and i really want to get more seriously into target shooting and put a aperture sight on it. I would mainly be doing short range 50-100 feet what would be a reasonably priced aperture sight that would fit on my Savage.


As you can see i dont know that much about aperture sights so your help would be appreciated.
 
Although I've not yet mounted an aperture sight on a .22, I do know that Brownell's lists more than one version of the Williams Foolproof for .22's. For target work, you'll most likely need the .050" aperture. The wider aperture holes available are geared more towards plinking and hunting.

BTW, 75' is 25yds and if, after you get good at that short range, you're only shooting your .22 rifle out to 100', then you're selling your rifle short. Think "it's just a .22"? After you get your aperture sight mounted, I recommend stretching it out to 100yds as sillouette shooters do with their scoped .22's. I say this just so you can see just what it can do. They're surprisingly accurate. I recall reading about this one club in Southern California where they shoot .22 rifles out to 400yds (although I can't vouch for the size of their groups out that far) and it surprises most folks who haven't heard about that before.
 
If your Savage .22 BA happens to be one of those made by Anschutz, there are several options which don't require any gunsmithing. In any case, mounting a receiver sight on just about any .22 can be accomplished with only minor work, usually by simply drilling and tapping two mounting holes at the proper point. In some instances, a slightly higher front sight may be necessary to get a more usable range of adjustment, but this also is easily and cheaply done.

The sights themselves vary in price with their degree of sophistication, naturally. Models with micrometer W&E adjustments and/or "Target" knobs will cost a bit more than those which require tools (small scewdriver).

A basic setup like the Williams "Guide" for .22s with dovetail receivers, including the Savage-Anschutz, runs about $31 from Brownell's. The model number is WGRS-54, and Brownell's stock number is 962-100-054.

An option tailored more for competition is the Williams Target Foolproof at $73.90.The Anschutz model requires no base, drilling or tapping and is made specifically for the lightweight target and sporting models. A higher front sight may be needed. Stock number is 962-201-003.

In the middle of both price and all-around utility is the Williams Foolproof for .22s with grooved receivers. $59.96 with screws for W&E adjustment, and $71.20 with target knobs. Both may require a higher front sight. There are charts for how to measure and calculate the correct height in the Brownell's catalog, and perhaps their web site. It's not difficult, but does require the use of either a caliper or micrometer for best results.

Almost all makes and models of receiver sights allow you to replace apertures inexpensively so you can find the size that suits your eyes and type of shooting best. There are also some adjustable discs such as the Merit #3 and #4. They are precision instruments and expensive, but usefull in higher level competition.

IMO, you'll be amazed at the amount of added precision possible with the addition of even a simple receiver sight. Nearly all of my short-to-medium range (out to 100 yds or so) rifles, .22 and centerfire, wear them.

Hope this helps you out.
 
thanks for your help, i forgot to say i also will use it for plinking some too so would a .50 size apeture still be big enough. As for the front sight, i have tried globe, post and bead, and the kind that i like the best with the apeture sight is the bead so i think i would also have to get my front sight replaced what would be involved in doing that.


As for being able to adjust them having to use a screwdriver wouldn't be a big deal for me as long is there isnt any other big downsides to the $31 sight. I guess what im really asking is, if i buy the $31 sight am i probably to want a better one in a year or two.

I assumed for target shooting 50-100 feet was all that was really realistic with a $150 gun.
 
I plink with .050" apertures. It's plenty big enough for me, but you best get one of each size and see what suits you best. Eye relief has an effect on aperture size and how it effects your shooting too.

W/E adjustments- I recommend getting the target knobs. If you get screwdriver/coinslot adjustments, that's more of a hunter's sight and on the range, you'll wind up wishing you'd gotten the quicker, easier knobs.

That $150 rifle, if you wring out the accuracy, you're liable to find it'll shoot better than you can. Rifles are like that.
 
It's been my experience that once I've zeroed my sights, no matter what the variety, on a .22 RF for the load it likes I seldom need to change it. I choose the range figure where I reckon I'll do most of my shooting with that particular weapon, zero it there, and do enough shooting at intermediate and longer ranges to know approximately where it'll hit and shift my POA to compensate.

I've long since ceased to compete in formal bullseye matches, so the need for frequent minor corrections to compensate for changing range conditions like light shifts or positional issues really doesn't apply.

Target knobs are handy when you anticipate making minor adjustments frequently, but they are also more susceptible to inadvertent change in routine handling, storage and transport.

Micrometer, or "click" adjustments are nice to have too, but not strictly necessary. Again, it's mostly a case of convenience although there are points to be made for relative precision and repeatability of adjustments with them.

The Williams "Guide" series are good, basic receiver sights. I have them on a couple of my rifles and they've given me excellent service. The lack of micrometer adjustment capability has been a non-issue for me, as I haven't needed to rezero any of them as yet. They still hit just where I put them when they were installed many years back. As an alternative to open irons for most hunting and casual shooting needs, they're a good value.

I also have rifles with the excellent "Foolproof" and Lyman 66 on them. FWIW, these are (with the exception of my cherished Marlin M-39M) all in calibers for which I reload and frequently try different components. While the click feature does speed things up somewhat, it really doesn't add anything in the way of precision. I could make an argument that the simpler and less expensive 5-D or Guide actually have a slight edge in absolute precision due to not being constrained by 1/4 minute increments, but it takes enough more trial and error to get that last little bit to make it moot, at best.

IMO, you might be surprised at just how accurate that $150 .22 can be once you find the flavor of ammo it likes best. Almost any modern .22RF is capable of performing beyond the abilities of the vast majority of shooters with at least a load or two. RFs are particularly finicky about what they'll shoot tightest with, and it takes some experimentation to find out what works best in yours. Once you do, it'll still likely take you a while before your skills outpace the rifle's.

Replacing your front sight needn't be expensive. The biggest shortcut you can take is to do precise measurements once you install your rear sight following the drill in the Brownell's chart and calculate how much taller it needs to be. Choice of bead size and material (brass, 'ivory', fiber optic, etc.) are entirely yours. It can be DIY if you're handy, but a 'smith will do it for a small fee over the cost of the part. Some of them will throw in the measurements and calculation as part of the deal. Check around to determine prices in your area.

In most cases, it's just a matter of pushing the old front out of the dovetail in the ramp or barrel and pushing the new one in. This can be done with a non-marring punch and a light hammer, but care must be taken not to damage the ramp and/or new sight in the process. There are special tools made for the job, but unless you're going to be doing a lot of it, they aren't cost-efficient. Due to differences in tolerances, minor filing to the replacement sight (never the dovetail!) might be necessary. This is generally why it is worth the extra cost for a 'smith, as he's already made the most common mistakes and knows how to avoid them. He'll also have the right tools to do it quickly and with the least chance of damage to your rifle.

As I don't know much about you, I can't really speculate on how well or how long you'd be satisfied with a "$31 sight". If you have serious doubts, by all means take the extra time to accumulate enough more cash and buy a more sophisticated item. It will be cheaper than buying twice, even if you find that you never use some of those extra features. Value is both subjective and relative; only you can decide what the term means to you.
 
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