AR-15 Decision

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Orginal post is between 2 choices. I was there about 3 months ago, trying to decide to go with colt, which is a well known brand or a S&W due to so many good reviews and lower costs. I purchased the S&W basic model and got enough courage to build my next one.

Getting to my point, if this is your first AR, I would suggest building one. You will come way under your $1,000 budget and learn a lot about how things work. I just finished mine with magpul everything and I paid just over $900 for everything.
 
if this is your first AR, I would suggest building one.
i disagree, if this is your first rifle, and you have little to no experience, you don't want to learn about the rifle when it is in pieces on your work bench. It would be much better to have a pretty good understanding of the weapon system before you try to build one. Now haveing someone that does know what they are doing help you, and you buy the parts, that is something i could see.
 
How about a BCM upper on a cheap lower (whether built or bought)? The upper is basically the whole firearm, you know. The lower is just there to drop the hammer. BCM has some pretty decent prices on upper assemblies... they had some listed at $385. That is without a bolt, charging handle, or handguards. I'd recommend buying one of their bolt and charging handle sets for $135. Then you can put whatever kind of handguards you want on it. standard handguards are pretty cheap if you don't need rails or a free float tube.
 
There are some really good responses in here. I'm glad I didn't just go out and buy an Olympic Arms AR. I think it will be between S&W, Stag, or Bravo Company Carbine Mod 1. I am sure that with whichever one I chose, they will shoot the same. Thanks for the input all!
 
Quentin, I know a few things about guns. BUT I am not quite comfortable with choosing upper or lower receivers of that nature because I do not know whats good and whats not. AND there are so many to chose from.
 
Spikes all the way man.

You can get one of Spike's m4's short or mid lenght for well under a grand and they're comparible to colt, or any of the other well known top notch gun makers. Not to mention your getting a custom made rifle for manufactured rifle prices, and the people at Spike's are as good as they're weapons. I can't say enough good about them, and I'm glad to see so many on this thread agree. Goodluck with whatever you decide man, an AR for X-mass is never a bad idea.
 
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I agree you are getting some excellent advice here, but it's all over the map! Keep it simple for your first. I've had a couple of Colts over the years, but currently have a Stag Model 1- great weapon and hard to beat for the price. I also have a Spikes Tactical complete lower which I'm currently trying to decide whether to put on a .22 upper or another 5.56. If I go the 5.56 route it will probably be a Spikes or DD. Good luck with your choice. :) WB
 
A lot of good stuff here, but three pages in, and no one has asked "Whatcha gonna do with it?"

It's less the brand name, than the features you need. So far everyone has said, Ok, you need a truck, buy Brand X. Well, what's the truck going to do? Makes a huge difference. Look good in the driveway? Haul cattle in a headache box? Trailer your boat to the lake? 4 wheel into the back of the property and haul firewood out?

General features you probably need, pros and cons:
Barrel - what type ammo means the twist, and how often means whether to get chromed or stainless. Chrome is high heat erosion resistant, but not precision, 2 MOA is milspec. Stainless is more accurate, but not common in a lightweight profile.

Use a full auto M16 bolt carrier, the weight works to help cycling, the cutaway bolts get too light. Use an MPI bolt, it's been individually checked.

Just about any lower and upper will do, how the upper was assembled can make some small differences, it still goes back to how good is the barrel. The A3 flattop is better for mounting scopes.

Handguards or a free float is always a warm discussion, what free float fans won't admit is that the barrel is still the final accuracy control. A free float just keeps the sling or hand pressure from affecting the barrels point of aim, it cannot and will not make the barrel more accurate than it is. Again, milspec is 2MOA, with handguards, that's a 8" circle at 400 yards, and a lot of folks are hard pressed to do it. It would still be a good heart/lung shot hunting. We sometimes get hung up on the bling and forget the application.

After that, fixed stocks do the job, most people never wear armor vests, if you do, you know what you need. For the rest of us, almost everything else is bling, makes no contribution to accuracy, or helps the shooter. The Army and Marines have not changed completely over to the M4, M16's are still the primary individual weapon, and the Marines are sticking with them, now issuing the M16A4. They do add an ambidextrous control.

If you get a 16" barrel, get midlength gas. Don't use surplus or used GI mags, buy Pmags from Magpul, they are much more reliable and abuse resistant. Most used aluminum mags should be crushed, not resold to be someone else's problem child, but that's what all those otherwise responsible shooters really do.

Specify the way you plan to use it, select the features that match, and then worry about brand fans telling each other how wrong they are. It's funny, since there are less than half a dozen receiver forgers anyway, they all work to meet milspec and machine each others stuff. Colt does not forge their stuff, either.

At that point, the price difference should really be questioned, especially when the premium to have a scratch free rifle lasts about the first range trip.
 
I've done business with Spike's Tactical in Apopka, Florida. They are first-rate, great to deal with, they go overboard to satisfy their customers.
 
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