AR-15 Fixed vs. Telecoping Stock

[ventana]

Greetings,

I am thinking about purchasing Rock River match grade AR-15. The rfile is outfitted with a telescoping stock and I would like to use the rifle primarily for target shooting.

I am concerned that most long range shooting rifles rely upon fixed stocks rather than telescoping type.

Does the type a stock (e.g. fixed vs. telescoping) have an signficant effect upon rifle accuracy?

Thank you for your attention.

 

[uneasy_rider]

I have not seen too many match AR's set up with collapsible stocks. Mine has a fixed, and I would not want a collapsible stock on it. How much this would impact accuracy is hard to say. You need to get a good consistent cheek weld and your stock needs to be rock stable. I guess if your collapsible stock can do that, then it should be fine.

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

No, not in my experience. Although the fixed stock is more comfortable than the standard telestock in terms of cheekweld (but there are a lot of aftermarket telescoping stocks that are nicer than the fixed).

The main issue I see is that the fixed A2 stock is too long if you shoot from a squared-off stance (or have short arms, short stature, child, etc.). The telescoping stocks are nice because each user can set it to their preference.

What type of target shooting are you planning to do? 10 round groups from the bench or IPSC-style shooting?

 

[strat81]

AR stocks are very easy to change out. You'll need a new receiver extension (buffer tube) and a CAR wrench to remove the castle nut.

That said, the Magpul PRS is adjustable and is a damn fine piece of kit. I wouldn't write off all collapsible stocks. If the rifle is a poor fit with a fixed stock, that can be detrimental to accuracy too.

 

[Brigrat]

stick with the adjustable stock, and swap it out with a Magpul CTR. You get the benefits of adjustable with the stability and perfect fit of fixed.

 

[taliv]

what bart said, however, for long range shooting, which i assume you mean prone, the A2 stock is perfectly suited. it's just the right length and lets you get a good cheek weld.

 

[Zak Smith]

The Magpul M93 or UBR has a consistent cheekweld regardless of stock length.

 

[kcmarine]

Not quite sure how it affects accuracy, but if you're buying an AR, just get a fixed for the sake of being different. EVERYONE has an adjustable stock, and while I love the AR photo threads on here as much as the next guy (knocking on wood, hoping the next guy who posts likes AR-15's too), it gets a bit old seeing M4geries every post. It'd be refreshing to see people go back to the clean A2/A4 setups again... especially in 20 inch.

/philosopher rant.

 

[MMcfpd]

Collapsible stocks don't necessarily adversely affect accuracy, although I suppose a really rickety one might. Of late, though, I have found myself migrating towards fixed stocks, now using an A1, A2s, Yankee Hill and Ace Ultra Lights and Ace ARFX stocks. But for some applications I still like the CAR stock and the Magpul CTR. Of course, I tend to use collapsibles fully extended.

One potential determinant of a preference is whether or not you sport any facial hair; collapsibles have a tendency to become somewhat intimate with beards.

 

[taliv]

zak's right. the m93b rocks. i haven't tried the ubr yet. i assumed you were talking about m4 style stocks.

 

[jmr40]

I have both and each has their place. For target shooting get the fixed. The rifle will not be any more accurate, but you will shoot it more accurately.

Nothing wrong with buying telescoping and buying a fixed stock either.

 

[skinewmexico]

When you say target shooting, do you mean High Power?

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

If you are set on the fixed stock, another option is an A1 length stock with an A2 buttplate. This is what my CMMG mid wears and it is a good compromise on length if you do go fixed.

 

[W.E.G.]

The collapsible stock really helps if you are wearing heavy clothing and/or carrying a backpack.

A GOOD collapsible stock offers every bit as good "cheek weld" as the A2 stock.

see
http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&q=sopmod+buttstock&btnG=Search+Images

A good collapsible stock is not inexpensive.

 

[KC&97TA]

I've never seen a "match grade" with an adjustable stock? I know the "RRA National Match" has an A2 stock.

I'm with jmr40, they both have thier place. My M4-Gerry and 18" SPR upper usally ride on my 6pos lower, my wifes Nationial Match Upper is on an A2 stock and there's a SAM-R Clone upper about to join the "2 uppers per lower club" for her A2 lower.

I find the fixed stock more comfortable for longer range shooting and the collapsable better for tactical shooting. When I shoot tactical I like to put the stock in the center of my chest, when I shoot longer ranges I put the rifle were the rest of the world does... the shoulder pocket.

I have to add though... you should have one of each to feel like a real man

 

[GRIZ22]

I found the main advantage in a collapsable stock is shortening it to shoot when wearing body armor from the shoulder or chest position for CQG style shooting. I left the stock of my M4 at the first notch out and shot it this way whether I was wearing body armor or not.

I've never seen the full stock at a disadvantage as far as shooter size. I had a 4-10, 85# agent who always aced whatever course she was shooting with a full stock M16.

 

[sarduy]

just get a fixed for the sake of being different. EVERYONE has an adjustable stock, and while I love the AR photo threads on here as much as the next guy (knocking on wood, hoping the next guy who posts likes AR-15's too), it gets a bit old seeing M4geries every post.

would this is what you call been different?

 

[sarduy]

 

[Zak Smith]

I've never seen a "match grade" with an adjustable stock?

Depends what you mean by "match grade", I guess. These shooters are all tagging targets at 400+ yards

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[Benelli Shooter]

I think a lot of people put telestocks on their carbines because they were not able to in the 90's due to the AWB ban. That is what I did.

I just put an A2 style stock on one of my rifles. Hands down, I like it better than the 6 position collapsible stocks on my other rifles. It is not even close.