I was wondering on the Legality of stockpiling AR-15 mags. If a Democrat makes it into the white house and the AWB that went into effect like in the 90's gets reinstated these might be a hart to get item. In the 90's what was the price change before and after the AWB. Would i be able to sell them after a AWB goes into effect? what do you think?
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brighamr
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There wont be an AWB like the last one. The next one will be much worse. Personally, if AR15 mags are legal where you live, I'd buy about 10 just to have them. (You can get USGI mags for $9 a piece right now). I don't know about you being able to resell them during a ban, but if so, the last ban caused ruger 10/22 hi-caps to cost $70-80 per mag.
Besides, with as cheap as they are now, it never hurts to have extra mags
Besides, with as cheap as they are now, it never hurts to have extra mags
Oohrah
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Also I would have extras. Some of the ones I have obtained in the
last year are stamped with the year of manufacture. Don't know
if it is important with pre ban stuff. A semi auto without magazines
is a single shot!!!!
last year are stamped with the year of manufacture. Don't know
if it is important with pre ban stuff. A semi auto without magazines
is a single shot!!!!
How many do you already have? If it's more than four, it's up to you.
With 20/20 hindsight, I should have purchased a thousand or so when Slick Willie was elected. I tend to believe that was an anomaly, unless Billary get elected.
I also should have purchased about a million primers in 1997 (Y2K and all that) when they were $12/1K. Oh well. I'm not sure I want to make my money off of the over reaction of others.
With 20/20 hindsight, I should have purchased a thousand or so when Slick Willie was elected.
I tend to believe that was an anomaly, unless Billary get elected.I also should have purchased about a million primers in 1997 (Y2K and all that) when they were $12/1K. Oh well. I'm not sure I want to make my money off of the over reaction of others.
I wish all the folks who rush to spend hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars every time this happens on mags/ammo/etc., would consider throwing just a little money ($20/$50/$100) towards the NRA-PVF,NRA-ILA, or just a pro-gun political candidate.
Personally, I think it would be great if the NRA would occasionally do a one day internet fundraiser like some of the candidates do.
I'm not trying to turn this into an NRA thread (I really do apologize). I just wish that some folks would take a look at what might be a better long term investment for their money. I'd much rather have my gun rights 20 years from now as opposed to just having a few stockpiled magazines and some hoarded ammo....
Personally, I think it would be great if the NRA would occasionally do a one day internet fundraiser like some of the candidates do.
I'm not trying to turn this into an NRA thread (I really do apologize). I just wish that some folks would take a look at what might be a better long term investment for their money. I'd much rather have my gun rights 20 years from now as opposed to just having a few stockpiled magazines and some hoarded ammo....
mljdeckard
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fburgtx +1000.
I am always baffled at people who will invest thousands in guns, but not $35 a year or $750 for a lifetime membership in the NRA.
I've done very well with GI mags, refurbished with new springs and followers. (I stole a few dozen when my unit was shut down.) I never even paid any attention to price fluctuations during the ban.
I am always baffled at people who will invest thousands in guns, but not $35 a year or $750 for a lifetime membership in the NRA.
I've done very well with GI mags, refurbished with new springs and followers. (I stole a few dozen when my unit was shut down.) I never even paid any attention to price fluctuations during the ban.
OMGWTFBBQ
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Current production mags were affected ALOT more than surplus magazines were during the AWB. If another one comes, you may see a $5-10 jump in price for USGI magazines, but you'll see a 200-300% increase in price for hi-cap pistol magazines. 33rnd glock magazines were something like $90 a pop in 2001, compared to about $15 for USGI. Instead of getting a crap load of AR-15 mags, I'd load up of hi-cap magazines for every gun you are considering getting in the next few years.
33rnd Glock mags are the way to go when the ban is eminent, but I don't think it is at this point.
33rnd Glock mags are the way to go when the ban is eminent, but I don't think it is at this point.
billwiese
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Some of the above posts are an accumulation political naivete not reflective of nat'l gun politics scene.
Whether a Demo gets in White House or not, the balance of power in Congress is, and will continue to be, generally tilted toward pro-gun side. This actually improved a bit in 2006 elections. This skew will be retained overall over the next several years regardless of election given the nature of districting.
HR1022 AW ban is a sop bill to appease certain factions of the Dem party, regardless of its chances of passage - it hasn't even made it past the first stages, it's just words on paper that got assigned a bill number, like thousands of other DOA bills. [Some of the more severe restrictions may in fact be 'bait' to be offered away in negotiation in a vague attempt to get back to the 94 ban, but that won't fly either given a fair fraction of Congress was routed in 1994- incl. Speaker Tom Foley.]
Vigilance is always required, of course. But stocking up on a certain item or items because a certain ill-defined proposed law that hasn't even gotten out of any committee yet is not the wisest thing. Buy AR mags because it's good to have a lot of 'em, not because someone thought of a law and made noises about it.
As above poster said, your best defense is not to buy more mags but ensure you're paid up w/NRA kick a check or two to NRA-ILA.
The fact that the HR2640 NICS Improvement Act only passed when NRA essentially rewrote it so that it could (1) actually be of some marginal use and (2) offer protections and allow restoration of rights goes to show we have some good throw weight in Congress. Furthermore, wobbly politicians in not-that-gun-friendly areas can use that to say "they're doing something about nuts with guns", and use it as political cover to vote against antigun bills like HR1022.
Frankly AW laws are more of a threat at state/local level - at least until Parker/Heller derivative cases can get traction.
THIS ELECTION, FOR GUNNIES, IS REALLY ONLY ABOUT CANDIDATES' PROSPECTIVE NOMINEES TO THE SUPREMES. In many ways, nothing else matters: we need to backfill follow-up cases (incorporation, etc.) subsequent to Parker/Heller - and it'd be real nice to have an 'originalist' majority in the Supremes helping us 'lock in' RKBA.
Bill Wiese
San Jose CA
Whether a Demo gets in White House or not, the balance of power in Congress is, and will continue to be, generally tilted toward pro-gun side. This actually improved a bit in 2006 elections. This skew will be retained overall over the next several years regardless of election given the nature of districting.
HR1022 AW ban is a sop bill to appease certain factions of the Dem party, regardless of its chances of passage - it hasn't even made it past the first stages, it's just words on paper that got assigned a bill number, like thousands of other DOA bills. [Some of the more severe restrictions may in fact be 'bait' to be offered away in negotiation in a vague attempt to get back to the 94 ban, but that won't fly either given a fair fraction of Congress was routed in 1994- incl. Speaker Tom Foley.]
Vigilance is always required, of course. But stocking up on a certain item or items because a certain ill-defined proposed law that hasn't even gotten out of any committee yet is not the wisest thing. Buy AR mags because it's good to have a lot of 'em, not because someone thought of a law and made noises about it.
As above poster said, your best defense is not to buy more mags but ensure you're paid up w/NRA kick a check or two to NRA-ILA.
The fact that the HR2640 NICS Improvement Act only passed when NRA essentially rewrote it so that it could (1) actually be of some marginal use and (2) offer protections and allow restoration of rights goes to show we have some good throw weight in Congress. Furthermore, wobbly politicians in not-that-gun-friendly areas can use that to say "they're doing something about nuts with guns", and use it as political cover to vote against antigun bills like HR1022.
Frankly AW laws are more of a threat at state/local level - at least until Parker/Heller derivative cases can get traction.
THIS ELECTION, FOR GUNNIES, IS REALLY ONLY ABOUT CANDIDATES' PROSPECTIVE NOMINEES TO THE SUPREMES. In many ways, nothing else matters: we need to backfill follow-up cases (incorporation, etc.) subsequent to Parker/Heller - and it'd be real nice to have an 'originalist' majority in the Supremes helping us 'lock in' RKBA.
Bill Wiese
San Jose CA
Only 58 out of the 535 congressmen signed or otherwise showed support for the bill since it was last reported (according to my sources...so they could be wrong by now)
The fact that the last one did not work may discourage them from doing it again. Even so, it is still a threat, but lets not overblow it by saying that it is (or acting like it is) inevitable.
The fact that the last one did not work may discourage them from doing it again. Even so, it is still a threat, but lets not overblow it by saying that it is (or acting like it is) inevitable.
Currently there are 60 cosponsors of hr1022, still a dismal showing of legislative support.
Its your money but I think its foolish to spend a bunch of money trying to plan around a ban that you don't even know the text of yet. If we ignore the lack of general public support for such a thing right now there is still no evidence that the last ban did anything. This means that the anti's will have to try to pass the same legislation that did nothing a gun and face a fierce battle on those grounds or try to pass more restrictive legislation to "fix the problems" with the last ban and then face more resistance because its harsher. Its going to be a super tough sell. Spend your time working to get the right legislators elected and get some new people interested in shooting. I think your $100 is much better spent taking 4 new people to the range to shoot for a day and mailing off a dozen letters than on a pile of mags at the moment.
LawBot5000
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With all due respect to the original reply, the next assault weapon ban WONT HAPPEN because of what we did in response last time (kick the Democrats out of congress and then kill Gore and Kerry's presidential hopes). And it definitely won't return in a harsher form.
If Congress collectively drops a huge tab of acid and that small minority of anti-gun legislators somehow manage to force a more draconian CA style ban down the throats of the US people, the resulting electoral upset will be even more drastic than last time.
Even before that electoral upset, a harsher ban would still be perceived by the general public as an illegitimate policy. If attempts were made to enforce it, there would be open resistance. But the truth is that the enforcers themselves are drawn from guess where? The same general public that doesn't approve of these stupid bans. I predict enforcement efforts would be ineffective in most places.
To the original poster, no there will not be any legal issues from stockpiling magazines.
If Congress collectively drops a huge tab of acid and that small minority of anti-gun legislators somehow manage to force a more draconian CA style ban down the throats of the US people, the resulting electoral upset will be even more drastic than last time.
Even before that electoral upset, a harsher ban would still be perceived by the general public as an illegitimate policy. If attempts were made to enforce it, there would be open resistance. But the truth is that the enforcers themselves are drawn from guess where? The same general public that doesn't approve of these stupid bans. I predict enforcement efforts would be ineffective in most places.
To the original poster, no there will not be any legal issues from stockpiling magazines.
RobTzu
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The last ban did not work because it was not harsh enough. This time we need licensing, registration, trigger locks, micro-stamping, 30 day wait period, and 1 firearm a year limit. Then it will work. Think of the children it will save.
IMO, something like AR mags will be what everyone gets. I agree with others that it will be the AK drums, Very large capacity mags, and other more unique stuff that sees the highest price increase. I would get much more than what I was use myself.
Whether it will happen or not, I think you'll have quite a bit of notice before it does. A better plan might be to save a little money to set aside in case it looks like the law will pass. That way you will be in a position to take advantage of the specific law rather than some imagined threat.
Whether it will happen or not, I think you'll have quite a bit of notice before it does. A better plan might be to save a little money to set aside in case it looks like the law will pass. That way you will be in a position to take advantage of the specific law rather than some imagined threat.
Eightball
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Or, depending on who is president and what they manage to slip into a mandatory bill, the president could unwittingly sign us on to be one of those countries that will abide by the UN's anti-gun stupidity charter.
Dravur
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This isn't a zero sum game....
I support both the NRA AND I buy guns and magazines, ammo and slim jims.
See the point? everytime someone trots out how they are gonna buy some mags and guns just in case the Hildabeast wins, a whole bunch of people come out crying that since he is buying guns and mags, he isn't supporting the NRA.....
Where in the world did he say he was going to use his NRA money to buy mags?
By the same twisted logic, If I am out buying mags and guns, I must not be buying food, shelter, clothing, Hot Pockets Frozen Treats, etc. Not necessarily true.
See, the secret is I have enough money to buy my toys AND support the NRA.
I support both the NRA AND I buy guns and magazines, ammo and slim jims.
See the point? everytime someone trots out how they are gonna buy some mags and guns just in case the Hildabeast wins, a whole bunch of people come out crying that since he is buying guns and mags, he isn't supporting the NRA.....
Where in the world did he say he was going to use his NRA money to buy mags?
By the same twisted logic, If I am out buying mags and guns, I must not be buying food, shelter, clothing, Hot Pockets Frozen Treats, etc. Not necessarily true.
See, the secret is I have enough money to buy my toys AND support the NRA.
brighamr
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Dravur - I completely agree.
lawbot - "the next assault weapon ban WONT HAPPEN because of what we did in response last time (kick the Democrats out of congress and then kill Gore and Kerry's presidential hopes). And it definitely won't return in a harsher form. " I sincerely hope you're right.
I keep hearing how "we kicked everyone out of office after the last ban", if that's the case what's stopping us from repealing NFA? I mean we have so much power and everyone that's in office is pro-gun now right? If we can un-elect every rep who is anti gun, we should be able to fix the laws on the books before new bans are even drafted...
lawbot - "the next assault weapon ban WONT HAPPEN because of what we did in response last time (kick the Democrats out of congress and then kill Gore and Kerry's presidential hopes). And it definitely won't return in a harsher form. " I sincerely hope you're right.
I keep hearing how "we kicked everyone out of office after the last ban", if that's the case what's stopping us from repealing NFA? I mean we have so much power and everyone that's in office is pro-gun now right? If we can un-elect every rep who is anti gun, we should be able to fix the laws on the books before new bans are even drafted...
another okie
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I"m a life member of the NRA, and I also plan to buy a few more magazines.
I admit that I just bought a few more. I think I would simply have to inventory what I have and what I thought I needed and see about making those two meet. I doubt I would try to invest for the sake of reselling unless I had something specific in mind with regard to that law.
Frankly, you can never have too many mags for any gun. USGI AR mags are a bit on the delicate side so stocking up on some isn't a bad idea. Don't forget the stainless and PMAG varieties too. Don't go nuts: what you are considering is speculating, not investing.
But first: send a $25 or $50 check to the NRA-ILA and another check to your pro-gun gubernatorial candidate.
But first: send a $25 or $50 check to the NRA-ILA and another check to your pro-gun gubernatorial candidate.
scurtis_34471
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I bought a bunch of magazines for guns I actually have and use on a regular basis. I also picked up a couple AKs and a Mossberg 500 Tactical, which I wanted anyway. I personally have no plans to spend myself into insolvency racing a ban that may or may not happen.
smullen
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Fburgtx said:
I did both... Stock piled a bit and renwed my membership to the NRA, got my father to re-new his and got two of my good shooting buddies to join the NRA.... I've also, sent them a hundred or so here and there as additioanl donations to the cause...
I to wish more would join...
I think all the local gun shops should start trying to get people to join... Not forice it or anything, just have litature and stuff on hand and mention it...
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As far mags, what mags? I lost all my mags in a boating accident. Seriously though, I think it would be a good idea to have more than a few large capacity mags. This applies to all firearms that take large capacity mags that you currently own or plan to own. If you can comfortably afford to buy 100’s or 1k’s, well you will get nothing but a grin and a sincere thumbs up from me. This is all about learning the lessons of history and performing some cost-benefit analysis.
As far mags, what mags? I lost all my mags in a boating accident. Seriously though, I think it would be a good idea to have more than a few large capacity mags. This applies to all firearms that take large capacity mags that you currently own or plan to own. If you can comfortably afford to buy 100’s or 1k’s, well you will get nothing but a grin and a sincere thumbs up from me. This is all about learning the lessons of history and performing some cost-benefit analysis.
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I bought some Glock 19 mags during the ban for $60 each. I just sold them to a guy in New York for $15 each (my replacement cost from Natchez).
I sold some AR-15 mags for $75 each right before Y2K. IIRC, I bought them for $20 in 1997. I can buy the same mags for $9.49 right now (44mag.com).
Who knows what the future will bring, but it seems like having a hoard of mags (especially pistol mags) is good insurance.
I sold some AR-15 mags for $75 each right before Y2K. IIRC, I bought them for $20 in 1997.
I can buy the same mags for $9.49 right now (44mag.com).Who knows what the future will bring, but it seems like having a hoard of mags (especially pistol mags) is good insurance.
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