AR-15s after the ban expires

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right now post ban ARs have some time invested in removing the bayonet lug
and in pinning and soldering the brake

the companies also have had to invest a fair amount of time in perfecting
the 10 (not 11) round magazine, and the non collapsing stock

if the ban expires, the manufacturers will just use existing .mil front sightbase forgings,
use USGI magazines, and have a few less headaches for the lawyers to worry about

i doubt they will get cheaper
but they will be fully featured
 
Personally, I think there might be a ever-so-slight decrease in price.

What I really expect to see after the ban is:

A: The manufacturers out there will hold off on offering the preban config guns till they get any current stock moved.

B: They will replace the front sight assembly with preban.... so.. theres the labor thats gonna eat up a possible savings.

I really think that the only way to come out ahead on this is to get a preban kit NOW.... then after the ban sunsets.. get a receiver.

I'm afraid the prices right after the ban sunsets will not be good deals. I forcast at least a year before they get "cheap" on any of the pre-ban config stuff that might come in in any model. (talkin foreign stuff here)
 
Did ya ever notice how the auto industry worked it when they eliminated the "wing" windows on autos? Slight price increase for the new air-flow windows (open it a crack for air-flow...doh!), then later when they "Re-Introduced" wing windows, had a slight price increase for the re-tooling, etc?

I'd expect the same kind of treatment in all honesty from American business types. They've still got to make payroll and pay the rent and I've never really noticed new things getting cheaper over time... have you? Long Gone are the days of a new $500 Colt AR-15 Sporter II (what I paid back in '86)

I'm just hoping that standard capacity magazine prices drop down to sensible levels again, so I can take all mine out of the safe and put the guns back in there. :D
 
I was talking to a friend who works in a gunshop about this the other day. According to him, prices will not be going down and demand for rifles with FH, bayo lugs and the stock of your choice will likely drive prices for awhile.

On the other hand, he works in a gunshop not known for its reasonable prices. So...take it with a grain of salt.

What will come down are prices for Glock and other standard cap pistol mags. It'll be nice to buy a Glock mag for $25 again, but I think that demand for those, and others, may also keep prices inflated for awhile. Really, who among us isn't going to want 50 mags for a glock in preparation fo the time they eventually renew the ban?

I wonder if the 10 round mags will be onsale after the ban expires....heck, they'd still make great range mags.
 
I don't see prices going down on "post-ban" rifles after the AWB goes away. They do not become any less functional. Most people won't care about having a bayo lug or a flash hider and collapsible stocks are easily changed out by the end user. At most, you might see a surge in the number of pinned-collapsible stocks showing up in the marketplace. But prices won't go down much, if at all, on post-bans.
 
here is what I see and what I have experienced and also what I sell.

#1 post ban prices going down or up?
if you look at any of the makers of ar15's right now they offer the rifle in either post ban configuration or pre-ban on the uppers ---price right at the same, the extra cost of the work to make it a post ban is quite off set by not having to thead the barrel and NO cost of putting on a flash thingy.

All of the custom smiths that I know that do service match rifles charge a little extra to add the flash suppressor.

So No it will not go up or down.
Will the local rip off shops jack the prices up ? Maybe but talking to on large maker of ar's No the prices will not go up untill there is most likely a semi anual price increase.
Why would they most of the ones that make a great product have 60 days wait on the average right now anyway.

#2 parts are easy to get either for post ban or pre-ban so unless you are planning on getting ripped off go shop at someplace that will not rip you off, they are out there.

#3 are the prices going to go down on pre-bans?
yes and no!

the rarer rifles that involve the 1989 ban like fal's, H&k's and others I do not see the price going anyplace but up over the years even if its a very slow increase.

now on the other hand guns like the ar15's folks will say hey I will buy all your pre-bans right now for a grand each or so. thats if they are colts or something else nice, but thats not much of a price difference over a new colt anyway is it!

Now just check out a few sights that sell not auction guns and you will flat see that the last few months the pre-bans lowers like sentra's and others have dropped down into the $600 range for a cmplete lower .
Don't just say where I'll buy one show me. shop it yourself as I am not in the bussiness of getting deals for you!!! We all have the internet so go find them they ar out there on a regular basis right now.

and lowers are still resenible and actually used pre-ban lowers are still lower most of the time because less folks want to spend the money getting the evil features taken off.

#3 mags pistol mags and the like will drop but like rifle mags only to the point of what the makers are selling them for anyway.

Do you really think new ar15 20 or 30 round mags are dropping to $5 dollars again when as a dealer the prices to us from them are over twice that and we are not going to give them away.

yes you will find that things like m9 post ban mags you will get for around $20 a little one way or the other is going to be better that $35 or mor for the post bans, yes you will get some deals and the same on ar mags and others.
 
I agree with most of the posts here.
I don't think the price of AR15s is going to drop at all. Why should they ? People are paying it now, why would the manufacturer agree to make less money than they do now. Of course the private sale "pre-ban" rifles is going to come down since you can buy a new rifle for less than what people were selling "pre-ban" rifles for six months ago.
The price of "pre-ban" AR15 magazines was never high to begin with. The price might be higher than what it was 10 years ago, but what price isn't ?
I am sure the price of handgun magazines is going to have to come down. The price of "pre-ban" magazines for many handguns is ridiculous. 7-8 times what "LEO" magazines cost.
 
I don't see why the post ban prices shouldn't drop if the firearm is going to be commonly available. OK, the HK's aren't imported so they'll probably stay up there in price. However, our ARs will be common day guns and their ready availability should drop from the artificially inflated prices of the Clinton AWB era.

If I don't sound too convincing as an economics person, I'm not an economist by schooling. I'm a consumer and my bizness is to consume and support our American Economy. :)
 
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new prices will stay the same, prebans will go for what used guns should. The crap pre-bans going for 1500 just because they're pre-ban will go for what junk deserves.


My guess only.
 
The prices might go down a tiny bit eventually---some of the companies will be able to use the exact same upper specs as the military, and will only create one type of upper.
 
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