AR15 build costs

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I'm thinking of building my own AR-15.

Never owned one, never fired one, but have always wanted one.

I'd have to go the build route because the retail price for a Bushmaster at $800 is just too high for me.

I'm looking to spend $650 MAX with a good complete upper and good lower.

I'd like my first to be a 20" A3 with carry handle.

What can you tell me? What lower, what upper?

Or... will I find significant reliability issues with a home build that the annoyance would be worth the wait and extra $200 approx for a Factory Bushmaster?
 
I was thinking my Armalite flat top was around $700 a few years ago.
Would you get Bushy parts?
 
Grab a comfy seat, this isn't going to be short.

I'd have to go the build route because the retail price for a Bushmaster at $800 is just too high for me.

I'm looking to spend $650 MAX with a good complete upper and good lower.

I'd like my first to be a 20" A3 with carry handle.

What can you tell me? What lower, what upper?

If it's truly $650 max, then you probably won't get an A3 version especially a name brand rifle. An A2 version is doable for about $600 partly because it seems everybody wants an A3 now; lots of A2 and postban stuff for sale. Going much below $600 is tough for a decent AR of any form. The experts do it easily with a mix of used parts, but they have the tools and knowledge to put it all together and what to avoid.

I've been spending alot of time at ar15.com lately especially in the EE (equipment exchange). To get a complete A3 (with carry handle) for $650 is going to be tough although may be possible if you shop very, very carefully. That $650 won't leave any money for assembly tools, so you're really looking to buy a complete upper and a complete lower. $700 would make this MUCH easier.

A decent complete lower will be minimum $200 (with an A2 fixed stock) and $250 if you insist on an RRA, BM, or Colt brand. CMT, LMT, or Stag brands are fine and lower cost. A collapsable stock will add $30-$50 to the lower price. This (link) is the cheapest I've seen for a new assembled lower and it would be a decent choice if you want a collapsing stock. Lets say you get that assembled lower for $225 shipped. Add in your FFL transfer fee (assume $25) and you're at $250, minimum.

That leaves $400 max. for an A3 upper with carry handle. There are alot of people that would like to buy that for $400 and you're in competition with them all. The removable carry handle will cost $60-$80 easily. The $60 ones will go very quickly, assume $75. That leaves $325 for the A3 upper complete with bolt, bolt carrier, and charging handle. Uppers in this price range (with the bolt group) usually have something less than desirable. It could be they are heavily used or they are a postban model (with muzzlebrake or bare with no threads) or a plain 20 inch heavy barrel (non-chrome lined, maybe postban) or something. They'd sell for more if they were very desirable. There are alot more A2 uppers for sale compared to the A3 uppers.

Just a few minutes ago, I bought a complete A3 upper without the carry handle for $300. It'd been shot alot and used in the outdoors so it has scratches, dings, etc. It also had a 14.5 inch barrel with an AK-74 type muzzle brake permanently attached (can you say LOUD!). The only reason I bought it was because it was a factory bushmaster complete upper assembly. Those are $500+ new. I'll keep the bolt group and upper receiver then sell the barrel assembly back on the EE to recoup some money and because I don't want that loud beast. I'm doing a custom, all-BM, free-floated upper for less than $500. I don't think you can get any new, complete BM upper for less than $520 plus shipping.

Your best bet is going to be somebody who needs to sell a lower, upper, or complete rifle quickly and they price it low. You almost have to live in the EE to catch those deals, but they do happen. Another good possibility is to buddy up with someone local who has the assembly tools and pick up parts over time. ARs just aren't cheap.
 
The best that I can find after a quick search is at www.eaglefirearms.net.
1. RRA A3(A4) Upper= $399 (w/o chrome lining)
2. RRA carry handle option= $105.
3. Stag Arms lower w/A2 buttstock=$199.
Grand Total= $703
Let me know if you can find anyone lower than Eagle Firearms. I'm looking to buy a new upper myself, but not a 20".
Good Luck.
 
Stag Arms lower: $99
http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Stag_Arms_AR-15_.223_Receiver.html
Delton 20" kit A3 upper: $455
http://www.del-ton.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=81


That's a grand total of $554, minus shipping and transfer and it's a damn fine rifle. Stag makes a great lower, and Delton's kits are very good.


You're welcome.

Edit: Disregard any advice about Florida Gun Works, they are universally known as rip-off artists. Do a search on their name on any gun board that caters to their wares and you'll get an eyefull.
 
You've already been told this, but if you want to do this check out the equipment exchange on ar15.com. If you're patient you can pull it off. (and vigilant. :) )

I had to watch for about a month but I found a RRA A3 20-inch Hbar for $360 and built a stag arms lower myself for right around 250 (including the FFL transfer fee).

My personal advice would be to build the lower using Stag or comparable quality lower and buy a name brand upper used. The one I picked up had 300 rounds through it (according to the former owner) and it looked like brand new. The reason I'd go with a RRA, Bushy, etc. for the upper is that I think you've got a better chance of it being properly headspaced, setup.

Have a good one,
Dave
 
Edit: Disregard any advice about Florida Gun Works, they are universally known as rip-off artists. Do a search on their name on any gun board that caters to their wares and you'll get an eyefull.

I've dealt with them before. Terrible customer service but they deliver. the 2 AK kits I bought from them (a long while ago) worked fine.

as a side note: given the choice between FGW and delton- I would most definately buy from delton again. Good company!
 
If you want to build an AR out of quality parts for less that $650, you'll need to invest about $75 in a lower action block and an armorers multi-wrench. That way, you can buy discrete parts and bolt it together yourself. I recommend this approach highly if you think that you'll want more than one AR platform. Considering how addictive they are, it's probably not a bad investment.... :D
 
AR209 AR15/M16 Parts Kit, minus lower receiver (Included are stocks, G.I. handguards, A-1 barrel, A2 type upper receivers, and all internal parts) $386.00 ea, 2/$749.50

@www.sarcoinc.com

;D not a bad deal either.

plus they sell stripped receivers for $90 a piece.- $479

there's a similar GI kit at the bottom of the page of dubious legality (M16 parts in an AR15 are a no-no of course)


I've been dealing with sarco for a while and although their cust service hasn't always been the best they do have good quality stuff. Kind of odd seeing as they sell EBRs out of new jersey. :uhoh:
 
Thanks everybody. Thanks 1911user and swingset.

You guys definately answered my question and gave me some good links.

:D
 
If you want to build an AR out of quality parts for less that $650, you'll need to invest about $75 in a lower action block and an armorers multi-wrench.

You don't need to do that, unless you're ONLY buying A/B/C parts to put the rifle together, and even that that's no guarantee your parts will be perfect, or your build will be.

Easier, and cheaper, for the beginner is to buy from a good parts company (I suggested Delton, they have a great rep and I know firsthand their builds are very good), and a Stag lower (again, a superb lower), and with some basic hand tools and no vice you can put together a fine AR for just over $550.
 
I think I'm gonna use del-ton to make my mom's rifle that I've been putting off.

green grips and guards ;) M4 profile and A2 configuration...

maybe even put one of those 3-prong flash hiders on it so her's will look different than others
 
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