travisd
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Just bought my first AR, a Stag Arms M2. I'm looking to replace the rear flip up sight with a carry handle to go on the flat top. What ones would you guys recommend?
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http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/ar15m16.aspx start here
How much do you want to spend? There is a bunch of Chinese knock of junk and Airsoft replica stuff out there.
I'd say these are known quantities
http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XSTSAS10H1
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR-15-Carry-Handle-BCM-p/bcm carry handle ar-15.htm
I'd say these are known quantities
http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XSTSAS10H1
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR-15-Carry-Handle-BCM-p/bcm carry handle ar-15.htm
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Ditch-Tiger
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Lots of people take theirs off an opt for a BUIS.
I would sign up on an AR specific sight like AR15.com or M4carbine.net and check the equipment exchange. You should be able to pick up a lightly used high quality carry handle for a decent price this way.
I would sign up on an AR specific sight like AR15.com or M4carbine.net and check the equipment exchange. You should be able to pick up a lightly used high quality carry handle for a decent price this way.
travisd
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I don't mind spending $80 to $100 for a good quality one. Good idea to visit a few other forums. Looked on ebay as I heard quite a few end up on there too but nothing really but cheap ones. Otherwise the spikes looks good for $85.
Don't want to put optics on this and i would like a better sight than the flip up. Looked at a Colt with carry handle when i bought mine and like the look of them.
Don't want to put optics on this and i would like a better sight than the flip up. Looked at a Colt with carry handle when i bought mine and like the look of them.
Saddlebag Preacher
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To be honest, I bought a UTG for my M&P15 and it holds zero and is accurate and tight fitting. I forget what I paid for it through Amazon, but for a carry handle I like it. I trade it off between a red dot according to what I'm doing with it.
travisd
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Thanks for the input everyone. I was going to go with the Spikes but i found someone local selling a brand new DPMS handle he took off a new rifle. I'm thinking I'll go that route and use the $40 i saved on ammo.
I'm assuming a DPMS is a decent sight and should work fine on my Stag?
I'm assuming a DPMS is a decent sight and should work fine on my Stag?
travisd
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I did some research and from what I've heard DPMS uses shorter sights, is this true for all of them? How much of a problem am i going to have if I try and use it with my F marked front? Thanks
I bought a UTG but is was for a .22LR upper, DPMS should be good to go.
travisd
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Any more thoughts on whether or not is the right size to work with my setup? Don't want to be stuck with it or have to get a different front pin. Kind of ruins it being a good deal.
Why do you want one? I have no idea why they even exist, the rail rendered it obsolete, Colt should have thought; "why are we stuck in this paradigm making a detachable handle/sight just to look like the old design we've improved upon?" (Actually, with what I know of the Army, the Army probably insisted on the detachable carry handle that no infantryman would ever use as a handle and Colt was like 
um...ok)
Jmo, hate to see you spend $ and in a year it sits in a parts bin until its eventually tossed. In the early days of the M4, it was something in my rucksack I had to keep track of but never used. Now, the military hasn't issued them in over a decade. Even irons only, a BUIS is smaller and lighter and an optic can always be added (or not).
um...ok)Jmo, hate to see you spend $ and in a year it sits in a parts bin until its eventually tossed. In the early days of the M4, it was something in my rucksack I had to keep track of but never used. Now, the military hasn't issued them in over a decade. Even irons only, a BUIS is smaller and lighter and an optic can always be added (or not).
Jackal
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I have Daniel Defense fixed sights on my lightweight AR. They are awesome and I would heartily suggest them over the chunky A2 handle. https://danieldefense.com/components-parts/a1-5-fixed-rear-sight.html
ApacheCoTodd
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ApacheCoTodd
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Save the potential hassles
Some out there are carbine specific, some are rifle specific, some are "generic", some are airsoft and some are worse than that.
Just get the right one straight from Stag $110.00.
https://www.stagarms.com/a3-carry-handle-right-handed/
Some out there are carbine specific, some are rifle specific, some are "generic", some are airsoft and some are worse than that.
Just get the right one straight from Stag $110.00.
https://www.stagarms.com/a3-carry-handle-right-handed/
travisd
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Went with the spikes. Ordered it yesterday.
As ti why i want a carry handle, I'm never going to put optics on this rifle, and want a nicer iron sight than the plastic flip up. Plus i like how a carry handle looks on an ar. Dont see it as a waste personally but i get that some people have their opinions on whats superior.
As ti why i want a carry handle, I'm never going to put optics on this rifle, and want a nicer iron sight than the plastic flip up. Plus i like how a carry handle looks on an ar. Dont see it as a waste personally but i get that some people have their opinions on whats superior.
Jackal
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I agree with not wanting a flip up, I dont run optics and like a sturdy sight. Did you take a look at any of the high quality fixed sights on the market? Sights such as Troy, Daniel Defense, etc. They are very good quality, solid as a rock and weigh next to nothing.
BCRider
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Since the carry handle is also the rear sight have you tried shouldering an AR with the carry handle? I did and found that instead of a cheek weld on the buffer tube I had a lower jaw weld when looking across the sights. I suppose that's fine for a basic combat use but it's less than ideal if you're trying for small group sizes.
And I'd suggest that most others have found the same issue. Which would be why we hardly see anyone with the carry handle setup any more.
And I'd suggest that most others have found the same issue. Which would be why we hardly see anyone with the carry handle setup any more.
Kaeto
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I'm planning on building myself an AR and want to go the A1 in looks route.
With the rear aperature nearly in identical places an abrupt shift in cheek weld isn't about the rear sight. They are all within fractions of an inch in the same place.
I bought a used carry handle rear sight and cut off the front portion, as have a lot of others on boards. It's milspec - it's the right height - it clamps on and fits - it's 2MOA accurate per contract specs - it's cheap - it takes abuse and has few parts to fail, collapse, or break - it's instantly ready like it should be when you need it because you don't have to take seconds getting it up into working position.
If you choose to keep the rest of it attached, it protects you from the cheese grater rail when carrying.
Millions of soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines were taught, qualified, and actually used the sights in combat for 30 years and they work. We may have moved to red dots in the last ten years, but it doesn't make the glass in them unbreakable, nor will they put up with being run over by a truck, like that's a measure of anything. Neither will iron sights, but they do put up with falling out of the back of a 5 ton truck, getting banged around in bayonet drills or CQB, and with the optional aftermarket front posts, can be made more visible in bad light.
Iron sights aren't that bad - I was never issued a red dot, I only have owned one since the first generation Aimpoint on my hunting rifles. Red dots are nice to have, but they are more expensive than iron sights and they must be protected just as any other glass lensed scope. The light equipment repair companies stationed overseas report they have to replace the issue red dots constantly due to breakage of the lenses, and have shipping containers of broken ones returning to CONUS after deployment.
Red dots aren't there yet, the carry handle sight has been there, done that for nearly two hundred years in principle, and 45 years in application on the M16/M4. I wouldn't discount them as obsolete yet.
I bought a used carry handle rear sight and cut off the front portion, as have a lot of others on boards. It's milspec - it's the right height - it clamps on and fits - it's 2MOA accurate per contract specs - it's cheap - it takes abuse and has few parts to fail, collapse, or break - it's instantly ready like it should be when you need it because you don't have to take seconds getting it up into working position.
If you choose to keep the rest of it attached, it protects you from the cheese grater rail when carrying.
Millions of soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines were taught, qualified, and actually used the sights in combat for 30 years and they work. We may have moved to red dots in the last ten years, but it doesn't make the glass in them unbreakable, nor will they put up with being run over by a truck, like that's a measure of anything. Neither will iron sights, but they do put up with falling out of the back of a 5 ton truck, getting banged around in bayonet drills or CQB, and with the optional aftermarket front posts, can be made more visible in bad light.
Iron sights aren't that bad - I was never issued a red dot, I only have owned one since the first generation Aimpoint on my hunting rifles. Red dots are nice to have, but they are more expensive than iron sights and they must be protected just as any other glass lensed scope. The light equipment repair companies stationed overseas report they have to replace the issue red dots constantly due to breakage of the lenses, and have shipping containers of broken ones returning to CONUS after deployment.
Red dots aren't there yet, the carry handle sight has been there, done that for nearly two hundred years in principle, and 45 years in application on the M16/M4. I wouldn't discount them as obsolete yet.
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