Are dumb-dumbs legal?

Status
Not open for further replies.
I say we should start calling HP bullets Dum-dums. Why do this? Because I want to see anti-gun politicians get on national news and say, "we need to start banning dum-dums."

If I have to listen to their crap, I want to get a laugh or two out of it. Besides, "dum-dums" just sounds funnier.

And yes, I think NJ has a "dum-dum" ban... or would that be a dumb dum dum ban... ha! :D
 
Nothing in the ORS that I can see about "Dum-Dum's".I decided to check to be sure for you though, since while Oregons gun laws (or lack thereof) are REALLY good generally, we do have this little ignorant gem, so one never knows.a search turned up nothing with any spelling or description of Dum-Dum though.So in OR law, everything ammo-wise is legal except:

:banghead:
166.350 Unlawful possession of armor piercing ammunition. (1) A person commits the crime of unlawful possession of armor piercing ammunition if the person:

(a) Makes, sells, buys or possesses any handgun ammunition the bullet or projectile of which is coated with Teflon or any chemical compound with properties similar to Teflon and which is intended to penetrate soft body armor, such person having the intent that the ammunition be used in the commission of a felony; or
Click to expand...
Which as far as AP hangun ammo goes, is the same as federal law, OR just added the stupid part about Teflon and similar chemicals, which isnt in federal law.
 
Last edited:
Wow - I thought "dum dums" hasn't been in the common vernacular since "Hootch", "Bees Knees", "23 Skidoo" ...

In some states it is against the law to have "hollow points" but not against the law to have "expanding" ammo. Of course this makes no sense at all - particularly since exanding and hollow point are less likely to penetrate the light vests worn by LEOs. IE - States like NJ force you to use ammo that is actually MORE LIKELY to penetrate vests (fmj ammo).

But - what do the anti's know about guns or ammo? Not a damn thing, but they make the laws none the less.
 
Just to add my vote to what seems to be a consensus. The homemade dum-dums are most likely going to be less effective than a quality factory made expanding hollow-point or soft point bullet made for defense. Roll your owns could present some legal difficulty, so, why risk it. Choose a bullet brand and type that is used by some major LEA in your state and leave it at that.

K
 
And yes, I think NJ has a "dum-dum" ban...
Click to expand...

Back in 1980 or thereabouts I was stopped by police in NJ and the cop saw a plastic bag containing something lying on the floor of the car. He got me and my buddy to get out of the car, and he retrieved the bag expecting (i suppose) to find drugs, but all he found were some .270 target reloads I had made with (SHRIEK!) hollow point bullets.

He thought they were illegal (they were not at the time) and I think he thought we must have been TERRIFYING VIOLENT CRIMINALS or SNIPERS or perhaps even (gasp) MALL NINJAS but after about 30 minutes of me trying to explain to him that NO, hollow points are NOT illegal in NJ, in fact they're SAFER because they upset easier when they hit something...I guess his supervisor told him, NO, they're NOT illegal in NJ and you need to give them back to the guy and let them go.

Things may have changed in NJ by now. Fortunately I no longer live there. What a fiasco. Talk about "fillet of stupid"...
 
As far as I can tell the United States has no obligation to the rules of the Geneva Convention because we did not sign it. Besides in war there really are no rules.
 
As far as I can tell the United States has no obligation to the rules of the Geneva Convention because we did not sign it. Besides in war there really are no rules.
Click to expand...
The Geneva Convention deals with POW treatment. The Hague Convention deals with ordnance.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top