Are Georgia Firearms Licenses public record?

[Lone_Gunman]

Like I said, that infomation is for ME TO KNOW, and NOT public record.

Like it or not, if the state issues you a permit, its in the public record.

Do you for one second think that any delivery person keeps a tabulation of deliveries that they make in a day, month, year?

Well I am pretty sure my UPS guy knows if he delivers a 50 pound box labelled ORMD on the outside, that he just delivered me a bunch of ammo. And the last time he brought me a rifle, he met me at the door with "Got a new rifle for ya!"...

But go ahead and believe what you want! Reality should not affect perception.

 

[JR47]

Well I am pretty sure my UPS guy knows if he delivers a 50 pound box labelled ORMD on the outside, that he just delivered me a bunch of ammo. And the last time he brought me a rifle, he met me at the door with "Got a new rifle for ya!"...

Well, my experience of 12/24/08 with UPS indicates that they don't "know" a whole lot. A package, clearly marked Signature Release was left, unattended, on my front porch. Overnight, and all. It contained a pistol!!

In mid-December of 2005, FedEx left TWO signature required marked packages on the front porch of the WRONG house. They contained a Model 1903 Springfield, and a Model 1917 Enfield. The address, beside the signature required stamp, was correct.

Most delivery people, unless they will have to pay for the loss themselves, tend to be pretty cavalier about packages. In the USPS, if the carrier mis-delivers, loses, or breaks a Registered package, they are responsible for it's value, and it's deducted from their pay.

I worked for the USPS, and my son worked for UPS. There is little, if any, incentive to remember packages on a daily basis.

 

[Lone_Gunman]

There is little, if any, incentive to remember packages on a daily basis.

That is not the point, my friend. The point is that if a UPS or USPS person was motivated to steal your guns, or to pass your name on to theives who would steal your guns, they can certainly figure out if you are likely to have them based on the mail and packages you receive.

 

[rscalzo]

Here is what I dealt with under NJ law. It was sufficiently vague to the point where some requests were in the gray area requiring the services of a legal opinion.

In addition to those records of the Office of the Governor that are exempted by the provisions of the Open Public Records Act, the following records maintained by the Office of the Governor, or part thereof, shall not be deemed to be government records under the provisions of Chapter 404, P.L. 2001, and Chapter 73, P.L. 1963, and thus shall not be subject to public inspection, copying or examination:

Any record made, maintained, kept on file or received by the Office of the Governor in the course of its official business which is subject to an executive privilege or grant of confidentiality established or recognized by the Constitution of this State, statute, court rules or judicial case law.


All portions of records, including electronic communications, that contain advisory, consultative or deliberative information or other records protected by a recognized privilege.


All portions of records containing information provided by an identifiable natural person outside the Office of the Governor which contains information that the sender is not required by law to transmit and which would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy if disclosed.


If any of the foregoing records shall contain information not exempted by the provision of the Open Public Records Act or the preceding subparagraph's (a), (b) or (c) hereof then, in such event, that portion of the record so exempt shall be deleted or excised and access to the remainder of the record shall be promptly permitted.

No public agency shall disclose the resumes, applications for employment or other information concerning job applicants while a recruitment search is ongoing. The resumes of successful candidates shall be disclosed once the successful candidate is hired. The resumes of unsuccessful candidates may be disclosed after the search has been concluded and the position has been filled, but only where the unsuccessful candidate has consented to such disclosure.

The following records shall not be considered to be government records subject to public access pursuant to N.J.S.A. 47:1A-1 et seq., as amended and supplemented:

Records of complaints and investigations undertaken pursuant to the Model Procedures for Internal Complaints Alleging Discrimination, Harassment or Hostile Environments in accordance with the State Policy Prohibiting Discrimination, Harassment and Hostile Environments in the Workplace adopted by Executive Order No. 106 (Whitman 1999), whether open, closed or inactive.


Information concerning individuals as follows:


Information relating to medical, psychiatric or psychological history, diagnosis, treatment or evaluation;


Information in a personal income or other tax return;


Information describing a natural person's finances, income, assets, liabilities, net worth, bank balances, financial history or activities, or creditworthiness, except as otherwise required by law to be disclosed.


Test questions, scoring keys and other examination data pertaining to the administration of an examination for public employment or licensing.


Records of a department or agency in the possession of another department or agency when those records are made confidential by a regulation of that department or agency adopted pursuant to N.J.S.A. 47:1A-1 et seq. and Executive Order No. 9 (Hughes 1963), or pursuant to another law authorizing the department or agency to make records confidential or exempt from disclosure.


Records of a department or agency held by the Office of Information Technology (OIT) or the State Records Storage Center of the Division of Archives and Records Management (DARM) in the Department of State, or an offsite storage facility outside of the regular business office of the agency. Such records shall remain the legal property of the department or agency and be accessible for inspection or copying only through a request to the proper custodian of the department or agency. In the event that records of a department or agency have been or shall be transferred to and accessioned by the State Archives in the Division of Archives and Records Management, all such records shall become the legal property of the State Archives, and requests for access to them shall be submitted directly to the State Archives.



The Privacy Study Commission created by Chapter 404, P.L. 2001, is hereby directed to promptly study the issue of whether and to what extent the home address and home telephone number of citizens should be made publicly available by public agencies and to report back to the Governor and the Legislature within six months.

This is a list of what cannot be released by a government agency
http://www.nj.gov/grc/custodians/exempt/

Permits are not listed so I'm guessing they could be released. However that would be on a statewide level, not municipal. Years back I did get a subpoena to release all info of purchases from one individual. It was in reference to a will that was being disputed.

 

[JR47]

The point is that if a UPS or USPS person was motivated to steal your guns, or to pass your name on to theives who would steal your guns, they can certainly figure out if you are likely to have them based on the mail and packages you receive.

USPS rarely ships guns, except between FFL to FFL. They are sent Registered Mail, making the Carrier responsible for obtaining a signature at the address, and also responsible for loss of said package, personally.

UPS was the group who, along with FedEx, were bleeding guns and ammo. In response, both organizations simply required the most expensive rates, ostensibly with the best security. They are still, if you read the papers, not above the odd loss of an entire shipment of guns.

As far as theft goes, UPS and FedEx tend to have larger delivery areas than USPS. This is mostly due to the fact that USPS manually sorts letters and magazines before leaving for the route. UPS drivers arrive to find their trucks loaded, and a route bill waiting. They really don't deliver mail. It would have to be a literally grand theft, as they would soon be caught, if only from the pattern of robberies, and their proximity.

 

[rmodel65]

i carry open here in GA so, anyone who looks my way knows i carry