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Are you a gunman?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by BADUNAME2, Jul 27, 2007.

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  1. BADUNAME2

    BADUNAME2 Member

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    Would you be comfortable being identified as a "gunman?"

    Here's a little blurb from an opinion column called "Plain Talk by Al Neuharth, USA TODAY founder." It appears in both print and online editions of the paper for 7/27-29/07, and referring to the goof ball on the YouTube debates last week.

    http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2007/07/will-online-sha.html#more

    When I read that, I got a little irked that the fellow from Michigan (although I think he's a goof, as I said earlier) was characterized as a "gunman." Then, I got to thinking about the word itself. Gun. Not bad. Gun owners by definition have guns, like guns, etc. Man. Also, not bad. Many of us are men, in the gender sense of the word. We're all men in the older sense of Man(kind) or hu(Man.) Put them together, and why was I offended? I wasn't sure, so I looked up the word, to see if it was something more than the sum of its parts. Here's what I found:

    From Wiktionary:
    From Dictionary.com, several definitions:
    Aha! I thought, a loaded word, given extra meanings by the way it's customarily used. A particularly nasty little bit of wordsmithing by Al Neuharth. Following close on Biden's heels, he's implying that gun owners = gunmen.

    ~~~Mat
     
  2. XD Fan

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    Maybe he meant it in the exact sense that the definition conotes.
     
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    I would also like to point out that it is HIGHLY improbably that the tacticool AR-15 the guy had was full automatic. Not that that ever stopped the press from reporting any different though.
     
  4. ArmedBear

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    Isn't "gunman" usually used with an adjective?

    Like "masked gunman"?

    I think that "jolly gunman" should become part of the vernacular, myself.
     
  5. DoubleTapDrew

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    Yeah but anything semi-auto will be referred to as "automatic" in the media in hopes that the majority if people will think it means full auto. Like a lot of the people think Klinton's AWB was aimed at title II guns.
    They don't refer to police or soldiers as "gunmen", only the bad guys. Is the politically correct version "gunperson"? :rolleyes:
     
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    I prefer the term "ballistically advantaged." :D

    If you're a professional gunman if you do it for the money like a cop, would that mean I'm a volunteer gunman, since I'm a part timer?
     
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    Much like a certain racial slur that starts with the letter "n", you can't take the word "gunman" at it's webster definition. You have to examine the current usage of the word. Anyone who goes on a murderous rampage with a gun is defined as a "gunman" by the mass media and .gov. Thus, being identified as a gunman is being slurred, in my opinion. Gun owner, gun lover, gun enthusiast, gunnie.....sure....gunman? Them's fightin words....where the eff is my lawyer?
     
  8. RNB65

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    Gunner. :)
     
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    He's either using the term ignorantly or pejoratively. Either way, that's about par for the course with USA Today.
     
  10. ArfinGreebly

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    Rifleman

    I suppose I wouldn't mind being caller a "gunner" or even a "gunny" but, given the choice, I'd take "rifleman," thank you.
     
  11. Nio

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    I don't mind it. Some people know me as a gunman. Some people know me as a swordsman. Some people know me as the fritcake next door. I've never paid too much attention to other people's labels...

    Nio
     
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    I think I'd much prefer to be called "Gunslinger" :)
     
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    Rifleman. Gunman has a negative connotation by the common public. But a rifleman is someone who stands for truth and justice much like a Minuteman.
     
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    So, as a Bullseye shooter, would that make me a Pistoleer?
     
  15. Joe Gunns

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    Yup, I'm a pistoleer -but no prince thereof.

    Gunman? When you call me that, smile.
     
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    I dont mind being a Rifleman or gunny, but Gunman is a negative term nowadays. Much like the term hacker, it has become a negative thing in the public eye.
     
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    I really don't mind being called "gunman", "gun nut", or even "kook". I'll educate those who use the words in ignorance and wont waste my time on those aren't interested in education. Those who use the words purposefully are probably beyond help, just like those who use the N-word purposefully. If those people succeed in their goal to outlaw our civil rights, then they will see just what a "Gunman" can do.
     
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    "Gunman"? No, I don't really care for it because of those negative meanings. Gunmen are one of several reasons we carry for self defense... among other criminals whether they use guns or not.

    "Gunny", in my experience, is short of Gunnery Sargeant (USMC E-7). The only time I've ever been called "Gunny" is when my 2nd cousin, a real Gunny, pinned his E-7 stripes on my coat collar. I've still got those stripes on my coat collar for several reasons... one is I occassionally get to tell the stories of my friends' and relatives' service to their country.

    "Gun people"? That simply denotes an interest group and that's fine with me. Some know me as part of the "gun people" and "horse people" interest groups. Most folks don't know me as a kook though.
     
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    Heh, I may have to head over to CafePress and make myself a T-shirt, that's a winner.
     
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    No. I am the Sergeant of a three-man Rapid Tactical Force at one of America’s largest indoor retail shopping areas.

    Our Creed:

    I stand ready to deploy and destroy shoplifters of Britney Spears CDs.

    I will never leave a fallen jellybean behind.

    I will never desert my fellow Mall Security Specialists.

    I will defend the Mall arcade with all firepower at my disposal.

    I will protect the GAP from those who would do it harm.

    I will stop Chechen terrorists wheverever they may appear.

    I will duct-tape a spare trauma plate to my body.

    I am a Mall Ninja.
     
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    do you have those special boots that let you climb up walls?
    you can't be a mall ninja without those.
     
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    Call me anything but "late for dinner" . . . have grown quite fond of "Gunny," however . . .

    Adopted the "Sticks & Stones . . . " philosophy many years ago.
     
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    "Gunman" is pejorative. Words can shift meanings when they're combined, so "a gunman" means something much different from "a man who owns a gun." If the bride trips and falls while walking down the aisle she does not become "a fallen woman." Al Neuharth, USA TODAY founder, writes his opinions for a newspaper that is sold to a mass readership. Using his approach to the English language Neuharth is, then, "a notorious media sellout and propagandist, a panderer to the masses."

    That idiot who gained a few minutes of Youtube fame has caused great damage to gun owners. The right to keep and bear arms depends as much on popular opinion and attitudes as it does on the Constitution and laws. Laws are made by people and are changed by people.
     
  25. gunmn74

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    I like it

    It was my CB handle before it was my login to a computer
     
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