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Are your guns electronically tracked

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by user3214, Aug 6, 2007.

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  1. user3214

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    If they aren't right now, I'd give it some time before someone tries to get a bill going to do such a thing. Their reasoning will be it could help keep firearm's away from felon's, or they could track the previous movements of a gun used in a crime and help them track down a culprit.
     
  3. Shear_stress

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    Probably the same way UPS packages are electronically tracked--just a bar code that read when the gun's checked in or out. I seriously doubt there's a tracking device in the gun.
     
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    The tin foil hat club is on the march again.
     
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    I am going to purchase more Alcoa stock. Lot's more.
     
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    I've heard this same rumor emanating from many friends in the DHS and the BP. Interesting. I'd be VERY interested to see more info.
     
  8. Trebor

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    The military stuff probably has a bar code inventory system. That's an inventory control system that is read by a laser scanner, not an actice "tracking" system that could find the location of an object.

    It's possible they also use RFID chips. I doubt it myself as I know the bar code system has been in use for quite awhile now and I don't see the military spending the money to upgrade and retrofit to an RFID system.

    Even an RFID system can only "track" an object within a certain, relatively close, distance to the reader.

    That's my understanding at least. Someone please correct me on military inventory control systems or the technology issues if I'm wrong.
     
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    Rfid is basically a bar code system with better proximity coverage. Your right its probably one of those, none of the GPS tracked stuff that some of the tinfoil hatters would like us to believe.
     
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    Hahahaha!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Long range RFID readers can operate up to 400' away in line of sight. Which means they are probably good for about 50' tops. The only way to track your guns movement is to put literally millions of these RFID readers all over creation.

    If there were a GPS receiver in your gun, it'd need a battery. If it's going to transmit its GPS location, it'd need a BIG battery. No satellite is going to read your RFID tag.

    Relax.
     
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    This is actually a good idea. If we give M16s and M4s to Iraqis, and then find one of them on a dead terrorist, we know who gave it to them. It's a lot faster than reading serial numbers.
     
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    Barcodes and serial numbers aren't indestructible. Neither are RFIDs.
     
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    At my federal academy (under DHS), the firearms instructor told us that our HK duty pistols have a chip in the frame. I think we even saw a picture. It made sense to me for weapon ID/inventory purposes, but I was a little suspicious when he told us the chips not only tracked location, but also recorded how many rounds had been fired. For OIS purposes, of course.
     
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    Ha! Not *my* guns!

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    a good Strong Rare Earth Magnet will totally kill RFID device in short order.
     
  17. Kentak

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    Well, now. If they were electronically tracked, they wouldn't be lost, would they?


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    This is the same technology they use (or are gearing up to use) in retail. The idea is better inventory control. I don't see a satelite reading something so small, but with technology, who knows? At least we have a few years.
     
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    Yeah, right. Now, I suppose someone could have written a program where you could manually enter a "round count per weapon" into a database inventory system. You could make it so you could scan the bar code of the weapon to bring up that particular weapon in the inventory system and then manually enter the amount of rounds fired at any particular session to keep a running total. It would be a little easier then keeping a manual log of rounds fire, if you really have to know that.

    No way I believe there is a chip on the gun counting rounds fired though.
     
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    ROFLMAO at the foiled gun!

    Wish I'd have thought of it!

    I can just hear the banter at ATF: "Curses! Foiled again!"

    Woody

    "The Second Amendment isn't about protecting ourselves against criminals. It's about all of us protecting ourselves from all of you." ---Dr. Suzanne Gratia Hupp to Congressman Charles Schumer (D-NY), 1994
     
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    Oh yes, I do fear that they may be. Whatever shall I do?! Please wait. I must adjust my foil helmet and foil support garment. :neener: That's funny stuff!
     
  22. user3214

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    Maybe it’s possible to track rounds fired– the chip could detect a sudden ‘jerk’ and update a counter on the chip
     
  23. FuzzyBunny

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    Contact Kathy at www.spychips.com and yes they plan on putting readers all over. She will look into it. Its all about baby steps.

    You might even want to read some of the info there. They are good people and deal with facts! I even support them with $$ from time to time.


    http://www.spychips.com/press-releases/american-express-conference.html
    AMERICAN EXPRESS ADDRESSES RFID PEOPLE TRACKING PLANS
    Promises Full Patent Review, Tracking Notice, and Chip-Free Option

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    According to the patent, RFID readers called "consumer trackers" would be placed in store shelving to pick up "consumer identification signals" emitted by RFID-embedded objects carried by shoppers. These would be used to identify people, track their movements, and observe their behavior.

    The patent also suggested such people-tracking systems could "be located in a common area of a school, shopping center, bus station or other place of public accommodation."
     
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    Hey do you guys recommend regular tin foil for hats, or the heavy-duty stuff?
     
  25. dasmi

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    Pretty sure my guns aren't tagged. The newest one is a 1987 Makarov, the oldest is a 1928 Mosin-Nagant 91/30.
     
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