Nalapombu
Member
Hey all,
I just called KAHR and wanted to ask them a question about one of their handguns that I handled one day years ago and absolutely fell in LUST with it and have wanted one ever since.
Short explanation......
Probably 10 years ago I lived in my hometown of Huntington, WV. I knew about KAHR pistols, but never paid that much attention to them. I was nosing around in a cheesy pawn shop literally OUT IN THE STICKS when I came upon this KAHR that I had never seen before. I had them get it out and it was a great feeling pistol, much better than the other ones I had handled prior to this. This one was a long barreled pistol with the polymer frame. I vividly recall the model being the TP9. They wanted too much for it or I would've walked out that day with it. I've wanted one ever since. By the way, this was before the "Value Series" came out like they have now.
OK, now to today. The Kahr TP9 I handled those years ago was NOT the same as the ones they have now. The current TP9 (and the corresponding value series model) have a capacity of 8+1. They have a LONG grip frame. The one I handled did NOT have that length of grip frame. I don't know what the capacity was on that pistol, but it was NOT 8+1 like the ones now are. I'm guessing maybe 6+1. That short frame was what made that pistol feel and handle so great....and why I wanted it.
So....I can KAHR and wait for TECH SUPPORT. I knew the regular sales people wouldn't have a clue what I was talking about. Turns out the TECH SUPPORT GUY didn't have a clue either.
I start by telling him about the pistol, the TP9 that I handled long ago and how it was NOT like the one they sold now. He stopped me right in my tracks and said they NEVER sold any kind of different TP9 than the one now. Thinking I didn't hear him right, I asked him again. He told me the TP9 that they sell now HAS ALWAYS been the one that they have sold. There was never a model or version of the TP that has less than the capacity it has now. I went through as described it in detail to him, right down to seeing the TP9 branding on the slide. His answer was that I must've go hold of one that some yahoo had cut down to accept a shorter magazine. I insisted that it was NOT a situation like that, it was a FACTORY piece. He insisted it was not and without actually telling me so, he thought I didn't know what I was talking about, mistaken, crazy or all 3.
After realizing that this guy was never going to accept that I saw what I saw, handled what I handled and that I have actually SEEN this model FOR SALE ON GUNBROKER from time to time, I told him that since he was not familiar with the pistol I was calling to talk about there was no reason to continue to talk to him. Which there wasn't. I wasn't being rude, just truthful.
I sat for 15 minutes after that call probing my memory on whether I could've been mistaken those years ago. I'm not perfect or infallible, but when it comes to a subject I LOVE like FIREARMS....I usually don't mess up such things.
I thought the only thing for me to do was come here and ask you guys (& gals) to see if I am ACTUALLY CRAZY in believing that I handled and wanted to buy a KAHR TP9 with a shorter frame than they have now and lower capacity than 8+1 like they have now.
What say you?
Thanks for "listening" to my tale.
Nalajr
I just called KAHR and wanted to ask them a question about one of their handguns that I handled one day years ago and absolutely fell in LUST with it and have wanted one ever since.
Short explanation......
Probably 10 years ago I lived in my hometown of Huntington, WV. I knew about KAHR pistols, but never paid that much attention to them. I was nosing around in a cheesy pawn shop literally OUT IN THE STICKS when I came upon this KAHR that I had never seen before. I had them get it out and it was a great feeling pistol, much better than the other ones I had handled prior to this. This one was a long barreled pistol with the polymer frame. I vividly recall the model being the TP9. They wanted too much for it or I would've walked out that day with it. I've wanted one ever since. By the way, this was before the "Value Series" came out like they have now.
OK, now to today. The Kahr TP9 I handled those years ago was NOT the same as the ones they have now. The current TP9 (and the corresponding value series model) have a capacity of 8+1. They have a LONG grip frame. The one I handled did NOT have that length of grip frame. I don't know what the capacity was on that pistol, but it was NOT 8+1 like the ones now are. I'm guessing maybe 6+1. That short frame was what made that pistol feel and handle so great....and why I wanted it.
So....I can KAHR and wait for TECH SUPPORT. I knew the regular sales people wouldn't have a clue what I was talking about. Turns out the TECH SUPPORT GUY didn't have a clue either.
I start by telling him about the pistol, the TP9 that I handled long ago and how it was NOT like the one they sold now. He stopped me right in my tracks and said they NEVER sold any kind of different TP9 than the one now. Thinking I didn't hear him right, I asked him again. He told me the TP9 that they sell now HAS ALWAYS been the one that they have sold. There was never a model or version of the TP that has less than the capacity it has now. I went through as described it in detail to him, right down to seeing the TP9 branding on the slide. His answer was that I must've go hold of one that some yahoo had cut down to accept a shorter magazine. I insisted that it was NOT a situation like that, it was a FACTORY piece. He insisted it was not and without actually telling me so, he thought I didn't know what I was talking about, mistaken, crazy or all 3.
After realizing that this guy was never going to accept that I saw what I saw, handled what I handled and that I have actually SEEN this model FOR SALE ON GUNBROKER from time to time, I told him that since he was not familiar with the pistol I was calling to talk about there was no reason to continue to talk to him. Which there wasn't. I wasn't being rude, just truthful.
I sat for 15 minutes after that call probing my memory on whether I could've been mistaken those years ago. I'm not perfect or infallible, but when it comes to a subject I LOVE like FIREARMS....I usually don't mess up such things.
I thought the only thing for me to do was come here and ask you guys (& gals) to see if I am ACTUALLY CRAZY in believing that I handled and wanted to buy a KAHR TP9 with a shorter frame than they have now and lower capacity than 8+1 like they have now.
What say you?
Thanks for "listening" to my tale.
Nalajr
