Armalite AR-10 national match rifle ya/na because?

[mrnic3guy1989]

As the thread says I'm looking into an armalite AR-10 national match rifle in .308 I am interested in it because I wish to get into some long range target shooting for fun and maybe a vacation that would involve a little hog hunting.I would like to know of any experiences anyone has had and if its basically a good rifle, reliable, accurate, and are they easily obtained?

 

[jim243]

Caliber: .308/7.62 X 51mm NATO
Barrel: 20" Triple Lapped, AISI 416R Stainless Steel, Match, Threaded 5/8 - 24
Rifling Twist: 1:10" Twist 168-185 (Will stabilize 200 Grain Ammo)
Muzzle Device: Stainless Steel Flash Suppressor
Front Sight Base: Picatinny Rail Gas Block
Upper Receiver: Forged Flat Top Receiver with Picatinny Rail and Forward Assist 7175-T74 Aluminum
Lower Receiver: 7175-t73 Aluminum (forged)
Trigger: National Match two stage - 1st stage 2.5 lbs - 2nd stage 4.5-5 lbs
Overall Length: 41"
Weight: 11.5 lbs
Accuracy: 1" MOA
Included with Rifle: Two 20 Round Magazines, Hard Case, Owners Manual, and Limited Lifetime Warranty, AR10 National Match Carry Handle, AR10 National Match Front Sight, USMC Quick Adjust Sling, Sling Swivel Mount

Your Price: $2,365.00 EA

The Army shooting team has been using them for over 2 years now. The price is not that bad either for a custom AR-10. You may have to wait a little while, while one is being built for you.

Jim

 

[peacemaker45]

Only one comment. If you're not going to be shooting matches, you can do better than the National Match trigger. Match grade sounds good, and usually is, but in this case, the matches in question require a 4.5# or heavier trigger. Lots of other triggers lighter and as smooth or smoother.

 

[Hummer70]

Assuming the same mind set there are 4.5lb triggers that require 3.5lbs to arrive at first stage and then only one more pound to sear off on second stage so you have a trigger that will pick u p 4.5 lb weight.

The Army shooters put lead in buttstock and lead in magazines to get the weight up as they tell me they are not comfortable to shoot without an additional 3 to 5 lbs added.

As well you want one with a match set up floating barrel.

 

[adelbridge]

DPMS LR308 for about $1200
Add Lilja barrel for $500 and sell stock barrel for $300 net +$200
Timney or similar 3lb trigger $200
$1600 give or take to get to .5 MOA with match ammo or handloads

 

[MistWolf]

Although I'm not sure what kind of accuracy it has (yet), the M&P-10 is, for the money, the best 308 AR going. Ambi controls, receivers made from 7075 forgings, 18" melonited barrel with 1:10 5R rifling and comes in at 10 lbs with a fully loaded Pmag. That's what we actually weighed one to be on a scale. Rifle was equiped with an CTR stock, sling and Aimpoint H1 Micro. Shoots like a house afire. Flash hider is way too long, but that's easily fixed if it bothers ya.
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AR-10 National Match is a good rifle but it's heavy and uses AR-10 mags, not Pmags. It uses 7175 forgings (slightly tougher than 7075) which is better than billet made receivers, especially those made from 6 series aluminum. I gave the AR-10 NM serious consideration. In the end, price and weight favored the M&P-10

 

[henschman]

A NM AR-10 is on the heavy side with the HBAR barrel. That is fine for long range target shooting, but for hog hunting, you want a nice light weight rifle, and shorter is nice too. Those oinkers like to hang out in areas with real dense brush.

They make shorter, lighter AR-10s, but instead of those, I would second the M&P10 recommendation. I had my doubts about them when they came out, but after looking into them, I think they are the best deal going for an off the shelf .308 semi auto. The Melonite barrel is a big plus. Very long life, while maintaining great accuracy.

 

[X-Rap]

M&P10 is not an easy find but definitely on my list. It seems the guns I want the most are the hardest to find.

 

[henschman]

M&P10s aren't hard to find at all where I am. The LGS down the street has one on the rack for under $1400. Academy has them on the rack for slightly more.

 

[mrnic3guy1989]

Thank you all

Thanks everyone for your help and input I have decided that the Armalite Match Rifle isnt what I want and I am now considering the M&p10, Sig 716 Patrol or maybe Precision, and the Colt AR-10 SP901. I'm really leaning towards either of the Sig's.

Thanks again ya'll!

 

[BullfrogKen]

Competition rifles are just too specialized to make good field hunting rifles. Pick one or the other and buy your rifle accordingly.

 

[itsa pain]

DPMS LR308 for about $1200
Add Lilja barrel for $500 and sell stock barrel for $300 net +$200
Timney or similar 3lb trigger $200
$1600 give or take to get to .5 MOA with match ammo or handloads

a DPMS is way cheaper and more accurate then the over rated overpriced armalite. I have the Rem R25 308 which is DPMS with Remington 20" barrel and after sending it back 3 times (barrel crown and chamber issues) it shoots 1/4 inch groups. the armalites my friends have are junk and they build a bolt rifle I saw in a gun mag for 3000 that under the best conditions possible with the best ammo could not do better then 3/4 MOA. I bought used savages that shot better

 

[mrnic3guy1989]

Sig

I'm goin to be able to shoot my cousins sig 716 precision rifle if I like it I think I'm going to go with that. Thanks for your input folks.

 

[mrnic3guy1989]

Oh I forgot to mention.

In terms of durability would the Sig 716 patrol be more rugged then the precision they both seem like they are sturdy rifles?

 

[Reloadron]

Competition rifles are just too specialized to make good field hunting rifles. Pick one or the other and buy your rifle accordingly.

I agree with that. You would be hard pressed to find one that is a NM rifle and would sub as a hog/hunting rifle. Based on your recent post I would be thinking one of the more versatile lower cost rifles suitable for all around shooting.

Ron