Armed citizen foils dumb bank robber

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What a testimony to being a responsible gun carrying citizen. DC should take notice how responsible citizens with a fire arm can protect and save lives. :cool:
 
Awesome. I laughed at the "I don't care. You aren't robbing this bank!"

This is a true example of a CCW at work doing what it does best: protect. I know that not all circumstances would dictate revealing a weapon to a criminal when bystanders are involved, but it appears he made the right judement call and executed his plan well. Good for him.

The robber on the other hand...not so much...
 
If it were me I probably would have shot him in the head when I heard the word "bomb", these days you can't be too careful with that sort of thing.
 
He's a stand up guy, not afraid to do the right thing. Ten years ago or so I worked for an ex Lebanese army man who was the same way, and one of the best people I have ever known. He is also a very good shot.
 
That's guts, plain and simple.

"I don't care. You're not robbing this bank."

We need more people who stand on principle, i.e.
"The buck stops here."
 
question:

even with a CCW how is he able to carry a weapon into a bank? we cant do that in my state.
 
"armed and courageous"

I salute Nabil Fawzi! He did a great job. He's a credit to the CCW community.

If it were me I probably would have shot him in the head when I heard the word "bomb", these days you can't be too careful with that sort of thing.
Well, that would be a dangerous thing to do, I think. Just because a guy says he has a "bomb" doesn't mean he has one.
Shooting the guy in the head might very well be a poor strategy in some (many?) states.

It's a dilemma, to be sure. Whatever you do, it's gotta be "reasonable," whatever that may mean, given the circumstances.

WXYZ.com said:
He told WXYZ.com he pulled out a 9 mm handgun (for which he had a CCW permit), racked a bullet in the chamber, pointed it at Webster and announced, "You are not robbing this bank!"

I note that the man was carrying Condition 3. A particularly effective mode for a lot of people. Proof is here. It only takes a half-second or so, if one practices. Often, as was the case here, plenty of time to load up.
 
playing devil's advocate...

What if the BG really did have a bomb? Then this CCW'er could've gotten everyone there killed.

Since there was no immediate threat to his life (he had not been told there was a bomb, and didn't see any weapon), in some states the CCW'er wouldn't have been justified in drawing his weapon in the first place.

I am glad it worked out for him.
 
Yeah, the "I don't care" line was pretty good. Ballsy. Stupid, maybe, but ballsy. Gotta admire that.

As for shooting him in the head, what about a deadman switch? I dunno. Personally, I wouldn't have done squat unless and until he hurt someone, or really looked like he was about to. Banks are insured, etc., and a firefight in a bank lobby (or a suicide bomber hitting the proverbial "red button") would be a lot worse than an insured institution losing a few bucks.

Don't get me wrong: I'm not knocking the guy. He did good, foiled a bank robbery, and managed to pull off a badass one-liner. Makes CCW look a little better in the bargain. Came up all aces on that one.
 
B yond:
I think Citizen Arrest would apply here. The CCW'er witnessed the commission of a felony. In all states with the exception of NC, he could arrest the man. In NC, the CCW'er could only detain him. His only method of arrest/detention was to draw his weapon.
 
Hmm.

Just a personal thought. A person that is smart enough to make a bomb is not very likely to strap it to himself to rob a bank.

Plus the fact that he was willing to take the ones starting out points to the fact we do not have a mensa candidate.
 
I think it's probably safe to say that the average bank robber is not willing to blow himself up if he doesn't get what he wants. People kill themselves for ideals, for religion, for freedom, not for a few thousand in cash. Sure, there are exceptions to the rule, but I think this guy did good in calling the robber's bluff.
 
It mighta been even cooler if the hero had simply walked up to guy, patted him down, THEN pulled the gun and asked the fellow to have a seat. But I guess he was kinda excited. I would be too!

Oh, and the fact that he's a 3rd time Felon only sweetens an already happy ending! Do you suppose it's too late for a career change? He doesn't seem to very good at this "criminal" thing. :neener:

PJ
 
Bombs are much rarer than bank robberies. Guess he didn't read all the posts in S&T forum where he was supposed to sneak out the back, run away and not do anything to help anyone so that his genetic material would live to fight nother day....
 
Bombs are much rarer than bank robberies. Guess he didn't read all the posts in S&T forum where he was supposed to sneak out the back, run away and not do anything to help anyone so that his genetic material would live to fight nother day....

Was that aimed my way, Titan6?

If so, I'll just say this: Bomb or no bomb, I'm not about to get myself killed over somebody else's money, especially not when it's insured.

This guy did what he did, and good for him: It turned out well. It's just not something I would do.
 
Well, I do, and yet, I don't. But I don't want to get in a pissing match over it, so I'll leave it as it lies from here.

Slàinte, then, Titan6, and no worries.
 
Not every person, or bank robber, is sane either. He could have easily had a bomb and WANTED to blow himself up! You can never tell these days. Tough call on what to do. Maybe check the hands, no deadman switch, POP in the head as above - dead man!
 
In case anyone else has skimmed down this far, wondering what this is about, here is the story, before the link dies:

Bank Robbery Hero: Reaction is 'Unbelievable'

Last Update: 6/18 11:34 pm

(WXYZ) -- A day after WXYZ.com broke the story of Nabil Fawzi thwarting a bank robbery in Canton by pulling out a handgun and holding the suspect for police, Fawzi says he's been swamped with calls of congratulations and interview requests.

"Everybody is shaking my hand and praising me for what I did," Fawzi told WXYZ.com outside his Sunoco gas station on Ecorse Road. "I've been getting calls all day long... It's unbelievable."

WATCH INTERVIEW IN VIDEO PLAYER

Fawzi has been news across the U.S. and on internet message boards since the wild incident on Monday at a Comerica bank branch on Michigan Avenue.

The drama started just after 9 a.m. when police say 54-year-old Joseph Webster from Washtenaw County walked up to a teller and handed her a note claiming he had a bomb strapped to his body.

CLICK HERE TO SEE ORIGINAL STORY & INTERVIEW WITH FAWZI ABOUT HOW HE STOPPED THE SUSPECTED BANK ROBBER

The fast-thinking teller hit the silent alarm while filling a bag with $1 bills -- until, police say, Webster demanded "bands of 50s and 100s." Another teller saw the situation unfolding and alerted Fawzi, 39, a long-time customer.

Fawzi, who spent six years in the Lebanese army, took matters into his own hands.

He told WXYZ.com he pulled out a 9 mm handgun (for which he had a CCW permit), racked a bullet in the chamber, pointed it at Webster and announced, "You are not robbing this bank!"

The startled Webster countered with, "but, I have a bomb" -- but Fawzi wasn't impressed. "I don't care. You are not robbing this bank!" was the reply from the other side of the gun. He then searched Webster, discovered he did not have a bomb, and forced him into a chair until police arrived.

Webster was arraigned Tuesday afternoon and charged with one count of bank robbery, one count of armed robbery, and a habitual third offense. He faces 25 years to life in prison.

Near as I can tell, this happened in the Detroit area.
 
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