Armed citizen stops stabbing outside school

[WardenWolf]

Original article: http://www.woai.com/mostpopular/sto...ng-outside-school/6zTYMpy8pUOeyrbElEBOTQ.cspx

Just another example of why "gun-free zones" don't work. According to Federal law, non-permitted individuals cannot carry in those areas. Fortunately, this time, a citizen with a concealed carry permit was around to avert a tragedy.

 

[303tom]

Been me, he would not get out of jail & do it again !

 

[fanchisimo]

In that link, if you open the additional details link, it pretty much re-tells the same story, but leaves out that he was stopped by a ccw holder. I wonder why they decided to leave that out on the re-telling.

 

[Warp]

Thanks for the link.

 

[hso]

The school had nothing to do with whether anyone had a gun or not. It just happened where the estranged husband knew he could find his soon to be ex-wife to confront her.

The fact that there was a carry permit holder carrying his weapon (most permit holders don't carry every day) at the time the attack took place is just serendipity and also had nothing to do with the school.

 

[Trent]

hso - Your words are true, but there is a point to be heard here.

In Illinois, that man would who "saved the day" would have been guilty of at least one Class X felony with a stiff minimum sentence. (All unlawful use of weapons laws are elevated to a higher level of Felony or "aggravated" charge, in the proximity of a school; not ON school grounds, but merely NEAR them.)

I view the entire state of IL as a gun free zone, BTW. It helps me keep things in perspective.

 

[Hoppes Love Potion]

Most mainstream news editors are not going to post any story where gun = good. They just aren't. So in all these cases it is necessary to skew the story. One editor who was caught doing this defended his action by saying he "didn't want to promote gun violence" by publicizing the true story.

That's pretty funny, because "gun violence" was PREVENTED by the presence of a RESPONSIBLE armed citizen, who solved the issue WITHOUT shooting a gun.
I guess if this editor's home was being robbed, he would consider it "gun violence" to call the cops.

There was a school shooting a few years ago. It didn't get a lot of attention because the number killed was minimized because 2 armed citizens got the drop on the attacker and disarmed him. News stories, if they mentioned the civilians at all, stated that the civilians "tackled" the shooter. The fact that the civilians were armed, and had made the shooter drop his weapon before tackling him, was never mentioned.

 

[Kingofthehill]

Happened here in San Antonio where im at. Way to go CCW civilian. thank god i now live in a free state unlike that crap hole California (loved the weather but hated the laws).

JOe

 

[barstoolguru]

In Illinois, that man would who "saved the day" would have been guilty of at least one Class X felony with a stiff minimum sentence

This happen in Texas and a CHL holder can carry on school property just not in the buildings and an individual can carry in their car when dropping of or picking up kids. The have a 300’ rule but federal is 1000 ft.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

Just another example of why "gun-free zones" don't work.

No, but it is a good example of why failure to act doesn't work.

I am the guy that pulled my KelTec P3AT on the guy yesterday morning. Just to clear up the confusion, I was walking down S. St. Mary’s street IN FRONT OF Bonham Academy. I first thought that the guy was beating someone, and I ran toward him ordering him to stop. He looked at me and ignored me. When I saw the blood and the knife I was about 10 or 15 ft. away from him. I pulled my gun, aimed it at him, and yelled at him again. Again he looked at me and ignored me. When he began stabbing her again I yelled to him as loud as I could. He again turned and looked at me. I told him “dude do you see what I have aimed at your head?” He immediately dropped the knife and asked me to call 911. All of this happened in the middle of S. St. Mary’s street, not in the school parking lot. I was not charged with anything.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...y-texan-stops-stabbing-at-san-antonio-school/

So he yelled once and the guy didn't stop.
So he yeled a second time, pointed a gun at the guy who saw it and the guy didn't stop...all the while he was stabbing his wife in front of the CHL holder.
Finally, deciding to negotiate yet AGAIN, the CHL holder got lucky and the guy stopped. Heaven forbid that he should have resorted to having to using vulgar language or the like. How many more times would he have watched Barron stab his wife before he would have decided to use his gun?

I am glad she survived. He apparently did save her life. I don't disagree with that, but the fact that she survived is also a testament to the ineffectiveness of Barron's assault giving the assault started before the hero first challenged Barron and continued through a total of three challenges, the wife continuing to be stabbed during that time.

I like how he pointed out that he wasn't in the school parking lot. It would not have been illegal for him to have had his gun in the school parking lot, so he would not have been charged if he had been there. He had his CHL for just 18 months and doesn't actually recall his law very well. Not only that, he could have responded to a crisis and could have taken his gun into a gun-free zone to save a life, but that isn't what happened.

 

[hso]

The fact that he acted, even reluctantly, while others did nothing to stop the assault is a great testament to the benefit of carry permits and carrying all the time.

For the information of anyone interested in better understanding the laws around school zones and carry, a carry permit issued by the state allows you to carry in a school zone unless the state itself prohibits it. -
(B) Subparagraph (A) does not apply to the possession of a
firearm -
(i) on private property not part of school grounds;
(ii) if the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do
so by the State in which the school zone is located or a
political subdivision of the State, and the law of the State or
political subdivision requires that, before an individual obtains
such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or
political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified
under law to receive the license;

 

[Deltaboy1984]

It was a Good Shoot and the Citizen needs Medal and any one who dares to try and charge him with anything a good tar and feathering. He saved that Womans life.

 

[academy]

Two questions about school zones...

1) Carrying out-of-state. School grounds would be an obvious hell no, but what about the parking lot of a business near a school? Is there an easy way to differentiate between public and private property in school zones? Also, if you are pulled over while carrying in your car in a school zone out of state, what then?

2) Texas-specific legal question. As I understand the law, in the state of Texas I am allowed to carry on school grounds since I am licensed, but not allowed to carry into the building.

Here's where my question arises: I'm a teacher. I realize I can't carry at work, but I wonder if I can carry to and from work, as long as my gun remains in the car. As I understand Texas law, I would think I could. Am I wrong?

 

[hso]

Better to ask that in Legal.