Armed home robbery by FIVE assailants

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Thus why a home defense gun is always important to have, or in this case with FIVE assailants, multiple people living in your house who also have home defense guns ;) although the average pump action holds 5 rounds... sounds like a solution to me
 
I dunno. 5 on one is ALWAYS a tough play. Even if they have to come down the hall one at a time, the third or fourth one is going to get creative and/or panic, possibly take hostages, STILL with bad guys between you and them. I wasn't here for this one, but if everyone is ok, they did something right.
 
but if everyone is ok, they did something right.
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they probably just complied, and what else can you do if you're pretty much caught by surprise like that, glad their safe but if it were me and someone just busted through the door and i saw other people coming in like that, id hope id be able to slam the door to my bed room, lock it, load up my Stevens and bust through the door again screaming
 
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Another good reason to carry while at home.

If they weren't armed with more than a single knife, they'd be stupid to all fight to the finish against firearms. I'd imagine that the remaining BGs would flee after two or three shots fired and their buddies dropping. Then again, BGs are stupid by design. Good thing nobody got hurt and the BGs were caught.
 
I understand what I think you mean. However, If I'm in the bedroom locked and loaded, I ain't going out there. They can come to me.

5 guys are bad odds.
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well i have different reasons, i currently live in a house with several other people and im the only one that has guns, i wouldnt lock myself in a room to leave them defenseless in hopes id be safe, id lock it so they cant get in before i get loaded up then bust out and teach the bastards a lesson
 
Oh, no, there are never more than one or two attackers. That's why I don't carry a reload for my S&W revolver. Afterall, statistics predict the future. ;)

The assumption I am seeing is that all five were attacking at the same time. The trick to winning is tactics, movement, cover, and good shooting to turn it into FIVE fights, not one.


The article mentions only one knife. It could have been solved by an armed homeowner.
 
God, what a mess that would be to clean up afterward.

Five disassembled assailants, thirty shell casings, copper and lead fragments all over the place, holes in the walls and doors, stuff everywhere.

Heh.

"It was a good day ... I got to use my AK ..."
 
Seems to me like
1.) It'd be a good idea for your HD gun to STAY loaded.

And
2.) The Bad guy's got nothing to gain by continuing to attack after you start shooting . It follows that unless junior is a real idiot he's not gonna charge that hallway if you're sending .40s down it.

3.) In addition to being loaded it'd probably be best that your gun was ON YOU when junior kicks in the door.
 
My one daughter (7yrs) has a lever action .22 rifle that she plinks shot gun shells with. The wife has my shotgun (rifled bore) with #6 lead shot (won't kill, but will hurt like hell) and a couple slugs if they don't get the hint (though she would probably miss). I have my AR, and my other daughter (10yrs) has a bow she is VERY good with (a .410 too, but she'd probably grab the bow). We also have a couple other things locked away that would be no fun for an intruder. That would make it five on four with us having home court advantage. We could add a very protective husky and even it up. Or have my son grow up a bit (2yrs right now) and out number them. We wouldn't be in the same area. We sleep at one end the one daughter and son on the opposite end, and the other on a different floor. It would take a coordinated effort just to round us up, much less deal with us armed.
As far as tactics, we all know the rules. ID first (discreetly by peeking), then arm, then ID again (verbally), then warn, then fire. I have the only weapon likely to go through walls (unless the wife loads the slugs which isn't likely) and still carry energy which is intentional. The lights are left on in one area only at a point they would have to go through to get to us giving a chance for ID and or shots. We know where the light switches are not them. I won't say we got it all planned out, but I have taken steps to make sure it would be difficult to come in and have your way in this house. Heck, we don't lock doors around here, it isn't neighborly. I live by a Marine tactic: Be polite to everyone, but always have a plan to kill them.
 
One word: Claymore.

If for some reason the 5 idiots make it out of my house (wife and I both sleep with pistols by us), they will be turned into ground beef.
 
If I'm in the bedroom locked and loaded, I ain't going out there. They can come to me.

5 guys are bad odds.
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5 guys with one knife. If five guys bring one knife to a gunfight, they all lose.

Drugs can turn merely stupid, or even smart, people in to complete idiots.
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Buckshot turns them into something entirely different.
 
Not trying to Hi-Jack the thread or anything,but Anyone remember the owner of a watch repair shop that defended his life and place of business on several different times.

I'm trying to find the video from 60 minutes (I think it was on that one)

Can anyone help me out?
 
The text of the article:

Police say men robbed home at knifepoint

By Dolly A. Butz | Posted: Tuesday, January 20, 2009
LE MARS, Iowa -- Five Sioux City men were arrested in Plymouth County on Sunday after police say they robbed the homeowners of a residence northeast of Le Mars at knifepoint.

At 9:43 p.m., the Plymouth County Sheriff's Office received a report of an armed robbery in the 1600 block of Marble Ave.

Sheriff Mike Van Otterloo said Monday that the suspects entered the residence with a knife in hand and threatened the residents. Van Otterloo said no one was injured, but he said he would not comment on whether the suspects took anything from the home.

While en route to the residence, deputies noticed a vehicle traveling northbound from the area. The vehicle traveled north of Marble Avenue to 160th Street at which point the vehicle became stuck in the ditch. Three of the five subjects in the vehicle then fled on foot into an open field.

Ivan Flores, 19, and Armando Valentin, 21, were immediately taken into custody without incident, and the three subjects who fled were apprehended two hours later.

Flores and Valentin were both charged with first-degree burglary, a class B felony; and trespassing, a simple misdemeanor.

Michael Dale Carson, 22, of Sioux City, was charged with first-degree burglary; possession of a controlled substance, an aggravated misdemeanor; and trespassing, a simple misdemeanor. Ricardo Ortiz, 19, of Sioux City, was charged with first-degree burglary and trespassing. David Zamora, 16, of Sioux City, was charged with first-degree burglary and trespassing. He was transported to the Youth Emergency Services Center in Cherokee, Iowa.

All of the adults are being held at the Plymouth County Jail in lieu of $25,000 bond, according to the sheriff's office.
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Hmmm I wonder what really happened? The charges aren't very serious and the bond is pretty low for a crime like that. Maybe Iowa doesn't have a charge of Home Invasion.

I'm really honored to share this thread with so many accomplished gunfighters. I had no idea that so many people here were skilled enough to wipe out five assailants armed with knives in the close confines of a house without breaking a sweat. :rolleyes:

Wyo_F-A, what are the local laws about using a claymore mine for self defense where you live? Do you remove the wire safety bail from the clacker when you go to bed? What do you use on the rest of the perimeter, punji sticks and fougasse? :uhoh:

gdcpony, what training have your 7 and 10 year old children had? Did you buy any of the exploding arrowheads used in Rambo II for your older daughter or do you feel they are too powerful for indoor use? :rolleyes:

I'm closing this thread before the chest beating gets really out of hand. The OP is free to reopen it. Everyone else who posted in here is free to post again after they read the threads at the top of the Strategies and Tactics forum. Consider this closing post your one and only warning. We aren't going to have this kind of mindless chatter here!
 
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