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Article: What Really Happens In A Gunfight?

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He calls the things that you remember seeing or not seeing an effect on the psyche. I think this is a physiological effect actually from all that I have read.I totally agree with his statement not leave it to luck - get training !!
 
It was interesting that he expected the deputy to take cover (even if he didn't). In most of the "gunfight" magazine articles we see pics of idiots standing upright, using the stance approved by the current "gun guru". I have never been in a gunfight, but if I am and if at all possible, I will place a high priority on getting my precious bod out of the way of flying metal.

Jim
 
Interesting observation on the revolver vs. autoloader sights. I don't like old (pre-1980 or so) autopistol sights, like those found on USGI 1911s- wouldn't the newer, larger sights provide they speed and ease of use that revolver ramp front sight have?
 
It was interesting that he expected the deputy to take cover (even if he didn't). In most of the "gunfight" magazine articles we see pics of idiots standing upright, using the stance approved by the current "gun guru". I have never been in a gunfight, but if I am and if at all possible, I will place a high priority on getting my precious bod out of the way of flying metal.

What you do in a fight will reflect your training. If you train to shoot from cover, you will probably seek cover in a fight.

Pilgrim
 
Hi, Pilgrim,

And some folks say you should train so that your actions and reactions are totally automatic with no room for any thinking. That means that if you train in shooting upright, in a real gunfight you will stand out in the open and present a fine target to your adversary. Am I the only one in the world who thinks this is not real smart?

Jim
 
I saw this on fark.com as well... and the following posts therein best represent the classic nutshell: "...from the sublime to the ridiculous.â€

I will say from personal experience… TRAINING TRAINING TRAINING! Absolutely without a doubt, you WILL revert to how you have trained. The body and muscles remember, better than any elephant you will ever know.

You may draw and not remember it. All of a sudden your weapon is in your strong hand and now it’s a race to get it into position before the bad-guy can react.

When the balloon goes up, ALL the firearms are silenced. Guaranteed. You won’t hear a thing. And you will be amazed at the degree of visual acuity you will have. You may not be able to see anything past 30° from center, but in those 30° you will memorize every detail inside that arc.

Your limbs may feel numb, but a day later you may have muscle strain from the sheer exertion of holding the firearm at that moment; your upper torso and arms will be locked into place and it would have taken an act of God to move you at that moment.

If you’ve practiced enough, you WILL focus on your front sight, almost to the exclusion of everything else.

You may tunnel into the bad-guys weapon. I seem to recall a study where they found that a large percentage of bad-guys were hit in the arm that was holding the weapon; because the human mind tends to focus on the threat. The threat is the weapon and so that’s where the bullets go.

You probably won’t remember or feel the first shots you fire. Your mind will be playing catch-up to your body and right then, muscle memory is king and lord of your body at that point.

Remembering that your conscious mind is behind the reaction curve at that point, you may keep firing after the overt threat is over; only after your eyes and brain have had a chance to process the input, you might realize that the immediate situation no longer requires firing.

Is the bad-guy hit? Is he down? Does he have friends? You may have to stand over another human being that a splintered second ago was trying to kill you and you may have to watch him bleed out and die. You do NOT owe him first aid. You may feel guilty afterward for not attempting to assist him, but this situation was not of your choosing, and unless you’re an EMT and equipped and ready to deal with a nasty bloody trauma, you’re under no obligation.

After all the shouting, you’ll probably get the shakes. Nausea and lightheadedness are common. Drink lots of water.

Hours later, after you have had time to process what just happened, you would probably experience these same symptoms again. You may feel frustration and a great deal of rage at the situation you were thrust into. Having had to use lethal force against another human being is a thing of such enormity, that you may feel that it is something that may color your every day after. But you will learn to deal with it. Remember that sometimes it’s ok to hurt another person if that person is trying to hurt you.

Live through it.
 
Interesting QuarterBoreGunner, thank you.

Is it a delayed reaction type of thing? I mean my wifes cousin just had such an incident about a week ago. He shot a purp, in self defense, then hurried off to make his sons school play. It was like just another day.
I remember times of my own that involved an "off normal" situation and it seemed fine for a few days before it hit me.

Just curious

jojo
 
jojo- for me, the reaction was immediate. And then again a few hours later. And then again a few days later. It took me the better part of a year to not have at least some reaction to it at least once a day. I’m not talking full blown shakes but a perhaps a little shudder at the thought of what might have been. I had the good fortune to be able to walk and talk through the events with numerous friends and acquaintances in various law enforcement departments. Officers that have ‘been there and done that- got the t-shirt AND the bumper sticker’ and being able to relate the after effects with someone that has been through a lethal force encounter as well, was extremely helpful. I know it sounds corny but it’s something that can really only be appreciated by someone that has lived through the same thing, I think. These officers and friends in the military that have seen combat also told me that post-traumatic stress is a funny thing and you never know when it might manifest itself. Knock on wood I’ve never had a problem, no bad dreams or emotional trauma (that I know of… I maybe am completely psychotic… I just don’t know it.)

BluesBear- Thank you Sir. I will raise a toast to us as soon as I’m done typing this in the sincere hopes that we will never see that damn elephant ever again.
 
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