Had my nieghbor down for dinner the other day. He mentioned he had a gun , in passing. I asked him about it. Said he was not a "gun" guy. He was a "self defense" guy. The reason- he was threatened in a public restroom. He was in the stall, it was a time when no one else was around, untill the perp came in. It was getting serious untill some other people came in and the guy left. This was a rest stop on the highway.
Attacked in the restroom.
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Yeah .... those "rest areas" can be pretty dangerous.
Several years back, an 'older' friend of mine; a gun shop owner, and WWII vet .... told me of an incident that took place one time, while he and his wife were on a road trip to visit their daughter. While making a 'pit-stop' at a rest area .... he was standing (alone) at the john, when a guy armed with (luckily) only a knife, came in behind him - apparently thinking Jim looked like an "easy target" - and demanded his wallet. Jim always 'carried', but with his .45 out in the car .... what he pulled out of his back pocket was one of those .22's that are carried in a 'wallet' type holster, with a hole for trigger access .... and can be fired from its "holster". He turned around and put one round, just past the guy's head - to let him know it was 'real' .... then stuck it in his face, and told him to 'run like hell' .... he did.
Several years back, an 'older' friend of mine; a gun shop owner, and WWII vet .... told me of an incident that took place one time, while he and his wife were on a road trip to visit their daughter. While making a 'pit-stop' at a rest area .... he was standing (alone) at the john, when a guy armed with (luckily) only a knife, came in behind him - apparently thinking Jim looked like an "easy target" - and demanded his wallet. Jim always 'carried', but with his .45 out in the car .... what he pulled out of his back pocket was one of those .22's that are carried in a 'wallet' type holster, with a hole for trigger access .... and can be fired from its "holster". He turned around and put one round, just past the guy's head - to let him know it was 'real' .... then stuck it in his face, and told him to 'run like hell' .... he did.
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RyanM said:
Personally, it kinda amazes me that people don't automatically lead their attack with this, or a punch/stab to the kidney.
Gonna take the time to set something like that up, why take the chance they'll be able to fight back?
In most restrooms, outside the stalls, your primary disadvantage is that you are facing a wall, a very hard surface, with your face/head very close to it. Close enough that all someone has to do is take a run at your back and drive your face into it. For most people, the "fight" is over at this point.
I use a stall whenever possible; if not I will wait if I have any doubts about fellow travelers. Or go somewhere else.
And don't get taken by surprize.
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Oh my....
Spiff.....read Dune....it's calles a stillsuit
Soy.....a half liter bottle is usually easy to come by and works just as well...haven't overflowed one yet, even pulled off the trick behind the wheel.
Watering the daisys works.
You could just swallow your pride and sit down and relax.
In general, any self defense move for being grabbed from behind should be applicable...(though messy)...Kick straight back (like a mule).
If someone sticks a gun in your back....your probably SOL.
Ever tried just holding it?
Spiff.....read Dune....it's calles a stillsuit
Soy.....a half liter bottle is usually easy to come by and works just as well...haven't overflowed one yet, even pulled off the trick behind the wheel.
Watering the daisys works.
You could just swallow your pride and sit down and relax.
In general, any self defense move for being grabbed from behind should be applicable...(though messy)...Kick straight back (like a mule).
If someone sticks a gun in your back....your probably SOL.
Ever tried just holding it?
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My Dad owns a floor cleaning company. He works mostly nights. A few years back he had just finished a job at a convenience store. The store clerk had already left. Dad had just finished hosing off and loading up the equipment into his van. Before getting back on the road he stopped to relieve himself around the side of the building.
Having lost his situational awareness, a guy approached him from behind, stuck a bowie knife to his throat, and forced him to re-enter the store. Mind you that none of us carry keys to any of these stores. Fearing for the worst, my Dad tore the door down, allowing the BG access to the store.
As the perp went into the store my Dad slowly backed away from him. The knife wielding maniac got about 10 steps away, and instead of heading to the safe, turned and stalked back towards my father. It seems that he didn't want any witnesses. Dad pulled out his NAA .22, and proceed to put 2 rounds in the guy's center mass. He dropped like a load of bricks.
Dad called the police. They asked him if he was in fear for his life. He was. They loaded the BG into the car and took his a** to jail.
My Dad owns a floor cleaning company. He works mostly nights. A few years back he had just finished a job at a convenience store. The store clerk had already left. Dad had just finished hosing off and loading up the equipment into his van. Before getting back on the road he stopped to relieve himself around the side of the building.
Having lost his situational awareness, a guy approached him from behind, stuck a bowie knife to his throat, and forced him to re-enter the store. Mind you that none of us carry keys to any of these stores. Fearing for the worst, my Dad tore the door down, allowing the BG access to the store.
As the perp went into the store my Dad slowly backed away from him. The knife wielding maniac got about 10 steps away, and instead of heading to the safe, turned and stalked back towards my father. It seems that he didn't want any witnesses. Dad pulled out his NAA .22, and proceed to put 2 rounds in the guy's center mass. He dropped like a load of bricks.
Dad called the police. They asked him if he was in fear for his life. He was. They loaded the BG into the car and took his a** to jail.
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Scooter, this is a great argument in favor of a hip holster, preferably inside the waistband. I wear one, along with a back-up gun in a pocket holster on the other side (hip gun is on my left, since I'm left, BUG in right front pocket).
Since I almost always wear shorts or pants, all I do is spread legs wide to keep the gun upright in the holster. I'm careful, though, to not push it too much to the side so that it would be visible to someone in the stall next to me looking down under the divider. Wouldn't want it grabbed. If someone surprises me in the stall, bad move--up against a ticked-off woman with 2 guns and one's a .45.
Since I almost always wear shorts or pants, all I do is spread legs wide to keep the gun upright in the holster. I'm careful, though, to not push it too much to the side so that it would be visible to someone in the stall next to me looking down under the divider. Wouldn't want it grabbed. If someone surprises me in the stall, bad move--up against a ticked-off woman with 2 guns and one's a .45.
Heres what happened to me.
I was at a bar and had broken the seal. I was standing doing my business when a person walks in behind me and says something that sounded to me like "I'm gonna kick your butt" but he used more words. I didn't really think, I turned hooked up with him and pulling him to me he lost his balance and fell into me. I tried to knee him in the balls a couple times then I finished the pull in push down (some people will know that move). As I let him drop down I am fairly sure he puked, I assume from him being drunk and my knee hitting him in either his balls or the general area.
I pulled up my pants, opened the door and went right out the front door. Looking back I think the guy was drunk and looking for a fight, I was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. The whole thing took maybe 4 seconds.
I was at a bar and had broken the seal. I was standing doing my business when a person walks in behind me and says something that sounded to me like "I'm gonna kick your butt" but he used more words. I didn't really think, I turned hooked up with him and pulling him to me he lost his balance and fell into me. I tried to knee him in the balls a couple times then I finished the pull in push down (some people will know that move). As I let him drop down I am fairly sure he puked, I assume from him being drunk and my knee hitting him in either his balls or the general area.
I pulled up my pants, opened the door and went right out the front door. Looking back I think the guy was drunk and looking for a fight, I was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. The whole thing took maybe 4 seconds.
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You all have probably seen this but just in case:
http://www.ampnet.co.uk/femorabilia/pee_standing.html
It used to be posted on www. restrooms.org but was removed for commercial reasons I guess.
You all have probably seen this but just in case:
http://www.ampnet.co.uk/femorabilia/pee_standing.html
It used to be posted on www. restrooms.org but was removed for commercial reasons I guess.
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in NYC public schools were very dangerous.
watch yer 6.
in NYC public schools were very dangerous.
watch yer 6.
entropy
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Had a 'friend' surprise me at a urinal some years ago, slapped me on the back 'for a joke', he explained later. I turned, still whizzing, grabbed his neck with both hands and rammed his head into a stall side panel. I then told him " You're lucky I recognized you, because I was about to use this.." as I pointed to the Kershaw Amphibian (4" boot type knife) in my inside vest pocket. He never tried anything like that again with me.
In my highschool years I went to watch the RedSox play at old Comiskey Park in Chicago. I was wearing a RedSox hat and about the fifth inning i went in to take a leak, I had just stepped up to the trough when i got body slammed from behind into the wall. I was half dazed and slipping down toward the trough (EWWWW!!!) WHen the guy who hit me was screaming at me for liking the P***Y RedSox and he grabbed my check book which was sticking out of my back pocket. Every body else in the room just leaned back and watched. I watched him go out the door and he was wearing a Union jacket. I got and followed him at a distance till he got back to his seat. I ran back to my seats where my friends were sitting and got some help. With a few friends as back up I dropped into the seat behind him and wrapped my belt around his neck, Told him the p***y redsox were killing his whitesox and I would do the same to him if he did not give me back my checkbook. By this time security people were running toward us. he handed over the check book and I was out of there.
Ever since this happend I have Never once used a trough or urinal in anything but a single occupant rest room. I will use the stall.
Ever since this happend I have Never once used a trough or urinal in anything but a single occupant rest room. I will use the stall.
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