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Australian gun control, failing miserably as usual

Discussion in 'Legal' started by The-Fly, Jun 17, 2007.

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  1. The-Fly

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    http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/06/17/australia.shooting.ap/index.html

    MELBOURNE, Australia (AP) -- A gunman opened fire on a downtown street during the morning rush hour Monday in Australia's second largest city, killing one man and critically wounding two other people, police said.

    The suspect fled and police launched a manhunt in the southern city of Melbourne, closing several streets and advising people to stay indoors as tactical officers armed with shotguns fanned out and helicopters joined the search overhead.

    Police said the shooting did not appear to be a random act, and that it was believed a woman who was one of the victims knew the gunman.

    The other two victims -- including the one who died -- were male bystanders who came to the aid of the woman during an altercation with a man who pulled out a gun, witnesses said.

    "A girl came out of a building over the road, she was screaming and a guy had her by the hair," Ross Murchie told Australian Broadcasting Corp.

    "She tried to grab hold of a taxi that was going by and the couple of bystanders went over to ask what was happening," Murchie said. "He let go of her hair, pulled out a gun and shot them all."

    Insp. Steve Martin said the woman and one of the men who went to assist were rushed to hospital in critical condition with gunshot wounds to their chests. The third victim died at the scene, he said.

    The shooting occurred on the corner of Flinders Lane and William Streets in central Melbourne around 8 a.m. Monday (2200 GMT Sunday), sending hundreds of frightened commuters fleeing.
     
  2. eric_t12

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    i told you the gun control worked, see!? the cops were armed with taz... er wait... i guess i'm wrong... maybe it doesn't work so well. :( poor me

    [/sarcasm]
     
  3. Elza

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    They MUST have been mistaken. He couldn’t have had a gun. Guns are illegal there!
     
  4. Bluey

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    Took less than 4 hours for the anti gun comments to start. The leader of the greens party called for a complete ban on firearms, and the PM has indicated he's in favor of it but it's a state responsibility (funny, seeing as he forced the states to adopt the current laws).
    I really feel like I'm seeing the downhill slide of this country. :(

    On the slightly more positive side, the two blokes who were shot went to aid the woman, so I guess there's still something worthwhile here.

    EDIT: latest I've heard is it's a domestic related incident. Still, better to wait for all the facts.
     
  5. helpless

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    Bluey, I feel for you.
     
  6. xd45gaper

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    wait it gets better the whole article was not posted this is the best part of the whole article

    good thing they made it so difficult for law abiding citizens to purchase a gun legally. and easy for criminals to purchase a weapon. hats off to the goverment of Australia
     
  7. SWMAN

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    Well, they could blame Virginia for the gun, everybody else does!!!
     
  8. MEH

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    :rolleyes:Double ban the guns! Triple ban the guns! Quadruple ban the guns!:rolleyes:

    I really feel sorry for the people in Australia. I met a guy from down under a few weeks ago, when he saw a .22 I was selling he looked like he was going to cry. He wanted that .22 so bad but he said his government won't let him own one:(.
     
  9. wizard of oz

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    From http://www.news.com.au/comments/0,23600,21923515-2,00.html

    "A GOOD Samaritan shot dead after going to help a woman in distress in Melbourne this morning was a 43-year-old solicitor, police said.

    The unnamed lawyer was one of two men who went to the aid of the woman who was struggling with a man near a taxi on the corner of Flinders Lane and William Street, in Melbourne's CBD, about 8.15am (AEST)."

    Comments on the story are interesting - plenty of antis but a lot of common sense also.
     
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    We're from the government, and we're here to help.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0627/p06s02-woap.html

     
  11. Kimber1911Fan

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    >>Double ban the guns! Triple ban the guns! Quadruple ban the guns!

    I propose a double secret ban....
    :neener:

    Kimber1911Fan
     
  12. leadcounsel

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    Post bigger signs that say they are illegal :D
     
  13. whited

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    Stationing troops in the outback to stop the poor aborigines from doing
    naughty things to each other ?!

    lol.

    As if they give a damn about the natives.

    No more Booze or Porn !!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    That's sure to help. And if not, well... we are going to STATION TROOPS
    around to see that you don't do these naughty naughty things.
    Australia has gone to the dogs long ago, I'm afraid.
    Howard is completely unified fully realized idiot of the highest order.
     
  14. ozwyn

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    the stationing troops bit sounds suspiciously like the slide towards a police state... particularly given the long-term nature of such a deployment and the siezure of alcohol and porn.

    Maybe next week they will sieze what remains of free newspapers and bibles. that's the kind of road they are walking down
     
  15. jselvy

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    Us too just a little more slowly.

    Jefferson
     
  16. Australian Shooter

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    I am an Australian gun owner myself, what Elza said was untrue, some guns are legal here but it takes a while to get them. Don't get me wrong though, I am a huge supporter for gun rights of law-abiding citizens and I believe that Australia should have a clause on its constitution that is similar to the Second Amendment of the US constitution, but sadly, that is not the case. This murder in Melbourne is why Australia needs a concealed carry licensing system. If the bystander who got fatally shot had a handgun to defend himself, then he wouldn't have died.
     
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    Very true- up until the mid 80's quite a lot of people were able to carry handguns for protection as part of their work; bank managers, chemists and such. It really wasn't that long ago and it wasn't long after they were made to stop that it seems the massacres which culminated in Port Arthur and the current laws began.
    I am not opposed to a license system as such in the same way that I am not necessarily opposed to a car license, and I do believe that a conceal carry law and "castle law" as found in some US states would be a good thing in here.
    In short "Aurstralia needs to HTFU!"
     
  18. AStone

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    Failure is, sometimes, the first step towards success.
     
  19. Australian Shooter

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    Federal elections are coming up, and I definitely know who I am voting for. It was a brilliant call from Keating for him to compare Howard with Hitler.
     
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    Australian Shooter,

    Welcome to THR.

    Look around.
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    until after 500.
    (Word up. :uhoh: )

    Ask questions.
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    Fosters is in the fridge
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  21. Australian Shooter

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    Thanks Nem, I'll keep that in mind.
     
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  23. Vairochana

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    Aussie shooter- trouble is there aren't that many real alternatives- Labor is as bad as the Coalition parties-may be a light at the end of the tunnel if Prime Miniature Coward is voted out, until then might be best to vote for The Shooter's Pary if they have someone standing in your state (I would have added Liberal Democratic Party to that but they seem to have become a non-starter)
    Cheers.
     
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    If you need Jesse Jackson or Michael Pfleger to hold rallies and vigils down there, folks, don't hesitate to ask.

    We'd be happy to send them your way for awhile.
     
  25. elrod

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    Watching the Aussies and the Canadians following the Brits model of gun control reminds me of the diehard football fan who lost 50 bucks on the game Saturday and another 25 on the replay Sunday!:p Some people (govts) just won't learn.:banghead:
     
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