Bad quality charged in Smith & Wesson Hanguns

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this from today's Boston Globe tells the story:




N.C. wants Smith & Wesson to replace faulty revolvers
March 18, 2006

RALEIGH, N.C. --Faced with problems ranging from misfires to barrels breaking off, the state has asked gun maker Smith & Wesson to replace hundreds of sidearms carried by probation and corrections officers.

None of the revolvers have failed in the line of duty, and for now, the department is keeping the guns in service. But in testing, about one in four revolvers didn't fire when the trigger was pulled. In some cases, the barrel of some models broke off when the gun was fired.

"In one sense it's funny," said Chief Deputy Correction Secretary Dan Stieneke. "In another, it's alarming."

So far, the state Correction Department has asked the Massachusetts-based gun maker to replace only 500 Model 64 revolvers bought in 2004, though there have also been problems with two other models. But officials could wind up asking Smith & Wesson to provide replacements for all 5,000 of the department's revolvers.

At a meeting last month at a shooting range in Smithfield, Smith & Wesson representative got a live demonstration of the problems. During test firing of about three dozen revolvers, four misfired, meaning nothing happened when the trigger was pulled. The barrel also broke off a different model when it was fired, something that has happened 14 times in practice firings since 2003.

"On the one hand, statistically (the revolvers' performance) is not bad, but it's just the safety issue," Stieneke said. "That kind of failure gets people's attention."

Officials at Springfield, Mass.-based Smith & Wesson, one of the world's largest gun makers, did not return repeated calls seeking comment.

For at least two decades, state prison officials have used Smith & Wesson revolvers. They are assigned to probation officers and correction officers who work outside of prison walls, patrolling perimeters and escorting inmates. The guns are not carried by officers who work inside prisons, where there is too great a risk of inmates getting a gun.

The guns cost about $320 each, meaning it would cost the state more than $1.5 million to replace them all. That doesn't include the cost of buying new ammunition, holsters and other accessories, plus retraining officers to use a new model of gun.

"We're at a point where if we have to make a quick switch, it's going to cost millions of dollars, and it's going to take a lot of training and effort to get back up to speed," Stieneke said.

Many law enforcement agencies have moved away from revolvers in recent years, switching to semiautomatic pistols, something Stieneke is considering.

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How the devil do you get a revolver's barrel to fall off?? I've seen them detonate with grenade loads and the barrel still held fast. Something is fishy here. I wonder if the Corrections folks are trying to create enough fuss to get the money men to replace their wheelguns with new semis. Whether the allegations are bald face lies won't matter once the new toys are on their hips.
 
I doubt these guys are lying - heck, a S&W rep even saw it firsthand.

Even new Smiths with the Lock and MIM and all the rest of the niggles don't have these kinds of problems - gotta be related to a specific production run.
 
As a rather cynical old guy I have a bit of trouble believing many of the things stated in that article or any other about guns in the news media. There very well might have been a few problem guns but reporters trying to sell print and totally ignorant about guns plus coorections people on average just like many police officers aren't that knowledgable about guns. I agree it sounds like a maintenace problem maybe. A good cleaning by people who know what they're doing might help the no fires. Barrel falling off a S&W handgun?? Have a lot of trouble believing that unless it blew off due to ammo like as has been speculated.
 
Makes me wonder if the barrel shroud is what fell off? Seems like QA could have missed getting them pinned on correctly however getting a barrel to fall off would seem unlikely given the depth of the threads and so on. This seems like a report full of statements without fine detail. After all, most of us have either read, hear of or seen first hand nearly all the known firearm failures to date. I think most would agree that either the whole truth is being withheld or somebody's mis reporting what's really going on.
 
I can't seem to find a pic. The link works, I clicked on "source", but an article with a tiny gun pic is all I get...
 
It's on page two of the thread.

I saw those pics and just thought "whoa." Hate to be shooting when that happenend..
 
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