Basics (Duh!)

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TrapperReady

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Yesterday, I found myself up at my "home" sporting clays course all by my lonesome. I could have hung out in the clubhouse for a while and joined with another group, but I decided to practice on my own.

When I practice, I go around the courses and shoot only those presentations which give me problems from time to time. I'll stay at a station and shoot the targets until I am hitting them reliably (usually running from 6-10) in a row. On targets like springing teal, I will warm up hitting them at the top, and then work on hitting them on the way up, just after they crest, and just a few feet off the ground.

Anyway, practice was going well (with the minor exception of a very close rabbit target :fire: ), until I got to my nemesis. It's a long shot from the top of a hill, with the thrower located about 30 degrees to the right, at the bottom of the hill, probably 30 yards from the shooting box. It's kind of like shooting trap from station #1, with the house at the bottom of a hill and the clay thrown hard left about 50% higher than normal. Make that trap from the 30 yard line.

All that being said, I KNOW I can hit these targets. On a typical round, you will have 3 report pair thrown, and I usually hit at least 1/2 of them. But, I've been very inconsistent on this station for several years.

So, I stepped into the box, pressed the button and shot... missed... pressed button... missed. Did it again with more lead. Hit one (broke in half), missed one. Tried more lead. Missed both. Tried less lead. Missed both. Tried shooting a little higher. Missed. A little lower. Missed. Tried shooting earlier. Missed.

Stopped and scratched head. Tighter chokes? Nope. I was running Heavy Mods, which give me plenty of range on all but the very longest shots. I threw a couple targets without shouldering the gun... just watching the flight and focusing on the front edge. At the distance, I couldn't actually see the spin, but I pretended that I could.

Then I dropped a couple shells into the tubes, pressed the button and shot. Bang. Hit. Pressed button. Bang. Hit. Neither of the breaks were chippy, the clay was well centered and came completely apart... not dust, but lots of little chunks. I threw two more. Two more solid breaks. Two more... missed the second one of the pair, no chips, but it moved. Ran four more straight and decided to call it quits on that station.

In retrospect, I think that I've been trying to "solve that problem" too analytically. I was looking at the target, but trying to shoot it by measuring the lead and "dialing in" the elevation. On all the other stations, I watch the target and shoot it... but this one had gotten inside my head. I think then length, the angle and the fact that it's thrown into the clear blue sky made me try to solve it, instead of just shooting it. When I really focused on the target and trusted my shooting, there was no problem in shattering those birds.

I seem to remember someone around here saying "If I can see it, I can fell it."

Sound like good advice to me. ;) :D
 
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I think the problem was...how do they say it? Between the ears possibly. :neener:

I know how it goes though...

Ed
 
Just shoot the durn thing...

:D

Thanks for sharing and reiterating what we all need to continue to read/ hear.

One learns the correct basic fundamentals, then continues to learn correct basic fundamentals forever; smoother, faster perhaps, nontheless correct basics and fundamentals. Plaxco

Trapper, you know as well as I do, if you had been handed your gun - or another, with no idea of the chokes or loads - you could have broken that target. Even if IC and "too open" or Extra Full and "too tight"... you would have broken it.

10 % is Physical, we get this established for US. This once established does NOT get into the more important 90% which is Mental.

Physical is gun fit, shoes, clothes...once these these Physical are taken care of, and correct basic fundamentals are ingrained...

"You get to where you could paint 'em out of the sky with a stick".

I have handed folks guns and "told them" what the bbl or choked was "marked". This got to their Mental being.

Seen the person hit a hard target at skeet with a Mod or Full choke - I "told them" it was Skeet. I have also "told" folks the gun I handed them was Full choked "to hit them irratic doves". Nope, actually they started hitting doves with a Skeet or IC choked gun.

Folks I have done this to get shocked, I mean they felled targets. I keep telling them - "don't let hardware fix a sofware problem". "Don't waste precious Mental energy expending it on Physical stuff once established".

Oh about that "seeing and felling" bit - yeah I heard of him, rumor is he used come around these parts to eat Fried Chicken and Fried Apple Pies on Sundays...thinks out of the box a lot, hard-headed...;)

Steve
 
Just shoot the durn thing...
Gotta agree. Now I don't shoot nearly as well or as much as most folks on here.

When Justin was here a couple weeks ago I must have missed the first 6 or 8 birds, cleanly. Justin was smokin' 'em. When I finally dusted one, I guess I relaxed, and then I did much better.

Towards the end of the session, when the three of us were standing in piles of hulls, I was smoking them with my 12 ga Citori. So I picked up my 20 ga 311 and did just as well. So I put that down and picked up Sandy's 28 ga sxs. No difference.

At this point I was having fun and not trying to aim or analyze the lead or anything.

Just shooting the durn things... :D
 
There ya go thinkin' again.....

I do much better turning off the forebrain and letting things happen.
 
So I put that down and picked up Sandy's 28 ga sxs

See? Correct Basic Fundamentals and Larry was smokin' 'em with his Wife's Gun!

:D

<whistle> Hey! can I get a Moderator in here? Where is that yellow smilie ROFL?
Oh yeah, *someone* was supposed to get me a smilie with a shotgun - I don't see it - I need it. Puh_Leeze!


Steve
 
Trapper, from what I read and ASSuME from your postings you are way too far along to let your concious mind interfere with your shooting. You need to 'just let it happen', let that be your thought as you close the gun and call for the targets. Sit back and watch you breaking the targets. Sounds hokie to me too, but when you see it, it will be something you never forget.
 
My trainer said my problem was that I was engineering my shots [too much thinking and analysis] I laughed saying that's because I was an engineer !! But he was right .Shotgunning is more of an instinctive thing and point don't aim. Clays really shows how wonderful a computer system the brain and human body is !!!
 
HSMITH - Tell me about it. On every other station and presentation at that club, I just look at the birds and break them. This one just got to me.
 
The minute I start to think is the minute I start to miss. I have noticed that everytime I nail a clay target, I cannot remember pulling the trigger. Total Zen...
 
TrapperReady said:
When I practice, I go around the courses and shoot only those presentations which give me problems from time to time. I'll stay at a station and shoot the targets until I am hitting them reliably (usually running from 6-10) in a row. On targets like springing teal, I will warm up hitting them at the top, and then work on hitting them on the way up, just after they crest, and just a few feet off the ground.

Anyway, practice was going well (with the minor exception of a very close rabbit target :fire: ), until I got to my nemesis. It's a long shot from the top of a hill, with the thrower located about 30 degrees to the right, at the bottom of the hill, probably 30 yards from the shooting box. It's kind of like shooting trap from station #1, with the house at the bottom of a hill and the clay thrown hard left about 50% higher than normal. Make that trap from the 30 yard line.

All that being said, I KNOW I can hit these targets. On a typical round, you will have 3 report pair thrown, and I usually hit at least 1/2 of them. But, I've been very inconsistent on this station for several years.:D


Question, do they not change the presentations? Is it always the same course time after time? I'm not clear from your statement above.

Brian
 
BozemanMT - They do change the stations, but not a ton. They have two main courses, with ten stations on each. Each station will have several shooting boxes (some closer to the thrower, some further away and/or at more of an angle). Periodically, they will move the thrower a bit, crank up (or down) on the spring tension, and/or change the trajectory. They may also move the shooting boxes a little, which will give you a different angle, or bring different trees into the picture.

However, I shoot at this place a LOT (a couple times a week)... and the presentations are roughly the same between visits. When they hold tournaments or special shoots, they will design and set a course specifically for that event.

BTW, the particular station I described in the initial post is almost a "signature" station, and hardly changes at all.
 
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