A number of older threads [to which reply is not possible] discussed arrangements for availability of defensive arms during the night. Many have said they have a handgun on the nightstand next to their bed. Some keep the handgun holstered in a drawer. I'd like to have your views on the products of http://selfdefend.com and their "Hidden Holster" designs.
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RedAlert
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Seems like a reasonable approach to me as long as you don' t leave the firearm there unattended.
If you are forgetful in the morning, I'd suggest a different option, one that locks.
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If you are forgetful in the morning, I'd suggest a different option, one that locks.
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red04montels
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If it works as well as it looks (sticking to multiple objects) then I think that's a great alternative to just leaving a firearm sitting on a table by the bed or having to pull open a drawer to find your gun.
Just to be clear . . .
The question I'm asking is about night time/in bed placement. Once up and about, my guns are either on me or stored under multiple lock and key barriers. I would not - and I don't think anyone not bedridden should - EVER leave guns in that position all day. The devices for placing a gun under a desk or other work place should be used ONLY when the owner of the gun is at or very near that work station and in complete control of the gun. Almost all shooters know [we can hope] the "Four Rules of Gun Safety", but some teach a fifth, as follows:
1. Every gun is always loaded [even when you believe it's not].
2. Never let the muzzle cross anything you're not willing to destroy.
3. Keep trigger finger out of the trigger guard and along side the gun until you've decided to shoot.
4. Be sure of your target and what's behind and around it. . . and
5. Maintain control of your firearm and know where it is at all times.
The question I'm asking is about night time/in bed placement. Once up and about, my guns are either on me or stored under multiple lock and key barriers. I would not - and I don't think anyone not bedridden should - EVER leave guns in that position all day. The devices for placing a gun under a desk or other work place should be used ONLY when the owner of the gun is at or very near that work station and in complete control of the gun. Almost all shooters know [we can hope] the "Four Rules of Gun Safety", but some teach a fifth, as follows:
1. Every gun is always loaded [even when you believe it's not].
2. Never let the muzzle cross anything you're not willing to destroy.
3. Keep trigger finger out of the trigger guard and along side the gun until you've decided to shoot.
4. Be sure of your target and what's behind and around it. . . and
5. Maintain control of your firearm and know where it is at all times.
FAS1
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Lot's of people use a holster mounted that way, especially if they don't have kids. I have seen several companies offer them.
Since I keep my HD weapon stored next to my bed all the time, I use a handgun safe mounted to my bed frame.
Since I keep my HD weapon stored next to my bed all the time, I use a handgun safe mounted to my bed frame.
SuedePflow
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I made something very similar to the Self Defend hidden holster.
I welded up some 1/4" aluminum, drilled some holes, and used paracord to attach a Side Armor holster that accomodates a tac light. I keep my Glock 23 w/ TLR-1s by my side every night. It's the perfect HD set-up for me and the rig feels solid and stays in place perfectly.
I welded up some 1/4" aluminum, drilled some holes, and used paracord to attach a Side Armor holster that accomodates a tac light. I keep my Glock 23 w/ TLR-1s by my side every night. It's the perfect HD set-up for me and the rig feels solid and stays in place perfectly.
Hunter125
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I picked up a cheap magnetic holster at a gun show and screwed it to the side of my bedside table. So I just take my gun out of the safe and stick it to the side my bedside table in between the table and my mattress. It doesn't stick out, it's easy to get to, and all I have to do in the morning is dropping back in the safe. Works well for me.
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I am in the school of thought to never leave a firearm unlocked and unattended. I have a bedside quick access safe that stores mine and the wife's during the day carry weapons. Sure it is a bit slower than having an exposed firearm but that is why I support layered security. Your dogs will start barking, you have locks on doors that will make noise if those are broken, alarms and other barriers will give you extra time to get into that safe. I can open mine and get to any of the firearms inside in about 3 seconds.
. . . and now, another factor
Now let's consider another factor, having already considered kids - what about somnambulism? That's a high tech word meaning "sleep walking". Have any of you know of or read of a person, still asleep, reaching for the gun and discharging it? Seriously, no joke.
Now let's consider another factor, having already considered kids - what about somnambulism? That's a high tech word meaning "sleep walking". Have any of you know of or read of a person, still asleep, reaching for the gun and discharging it? Seriously, no joke.
aarondhgraham
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Think Uncle Mikes,,,
My bed has a wooden side rail,,,
I just screwed a cheap uncle Mikes nylon holster to it.
No kids and no visitors,,,
I have one pistol that lives there.
Unless my cat grows thumbs,,,
It's safe for my situation.
Anyone with an old nylon holster and a small piece of thin plywood can make one.
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My bed has a wooden side rail,,,
I just screwed a cheap uncle Mikes nylon holster to it.
No kids and no visitors,,,
I have one pistol that lives there.
Unless my cat grows thumbs,,,
It's safe for my situation.
Anyone with an old nylon holster and a small piece of thin plywood can make one.
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Thanks, Aarond!
Another great idea! Thanks, Aarond! Some beds have metal mattress frames, so this would be limited to wood sided beds. Another factor is being able to remove the bedside mechanism when traveling to use bedside at the travel destination.
However, I'm really interested in reading about anyone's experience, or even what you've heard, about somnambulism - sleep walking and/or discharging a fire arm in one's sleep. I know of very few cases where that's happened - but it has happened. Your input on this subject will be appreciated.
Another great idea! Thanks, Aarond! Some beds have metal mattress frames, so this would be limited to wood sided beds. Another factor is being able to remove the bedside mechanism when traveling to use bedside at the travel destination.
However, I'm really interested in reading about anyone's experience, or even what you've heard, about somnambulism - sleep walking and/or discharging a fire arm in one's sleep. I know of very few cases where that's happened - but it has happened. Your input on this subject will be appreciated.
RedAlert
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somnambulism - sleep walking and/or discharging a fire arm in one's sleep
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I'm sure being hit by a falling asteroid has similar long odds. Can I ask what plans you've made to protect yourself from asteroids?? All kidding aside, I'm sure it is a very uncommon event.
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I'm sure being hit by a falling asteroid has similar long odds. Can I ask what plans you've made to protect yourself from asteroids?? All kidding aside, I'm sure it is a very uncommon event.
Not so fast!
In a subscription list of about a thousand, not less that two have reported that form of somnambulism that resulted in firing the bedside weapon. Not the same odds as an asteroid hit. But my question wasn't about the odds. It asked for actual occurrences, or at least that's my intent. Anyone who doesn't want to post such information here can personal message me to preserve confidentiality.
Again, the question was not about "the odds". The question is about actual occurrences, whether personal to the reporter or one or more about which the reporter has learned by first or second hand information. This isn't an argument - it's a search.
In a subscription list of about a thousand, not less that two have reported that form of somnambulism that resulted in firing the bedside weapon. Not the same odds as an asteroid hit. But my question wasn't about the odds. It asked for actual occurrences, or at least that's my intent. Anyone who doesn't want to post such information here can personal message me to preserve confidentiality.
Again, the question was not about "the odds". The question is about actual occurrences, whether personal to the reporter or one or more about which the reporter has learned by first or second hand information. This isn't an argument - it's a search.
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