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I read the same article and since then I placed my bedside gun and a maglight on a nylon web belt with a clip buckle, just so I can throw it on at night if I am woken up.
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Having a way to have everything you might need on your person is a great idea. Making it hands free is an even better idea, be it belt, vest or pack.
Whether most situations would give you time to put a special HD belt on... that is questionable. But if time did allow it, I sure as heck would like to have all my options easy to grab and put on.
If you want a belt full of HD tools, go for it. Unless your family starts calling you Batman, I don't see how it could hurt. To each his own.
Whether most situations would give you time to put a special HD belt on... that is questionable. But if time did allow it, I sure as heck would like to have all my options easy to grab and put on.
If you want a belt full of HD tools, go for it. Unless your family starts calling you Batman, I don't see how it could hurt. To each his own.
Devil's advocate:
The convenience might tempt you to carry more than you need. Depending on where you live and the specifics of what happens, your attorney may wish you hadn't been carrying cuffs and 3 separate guns with reloads.
If it starts to be inconvenient, you may not take it when you need it.
If it is convenient and you have other people in your house, they may borrow it because they need something (flashlight, multitool, keys, extra money).
If the belt doesn't fit in a safe, you might be tempted to leave firearms out that you would otherwise have locked up. This might be a problem depending on who else lives/visits you.
The convenience might tempt you to carry more than you need. Depending on where you live and the specifics of what happens, your attorney may wish you hadn't been carrying cuffs and 3 separate guns with reloads.
If it starts to be inconvenient, you may not take it when you need it.
If it is convenient and you have other people in your house, they may borrow it because they need something (flashlight, multitool, keys, extra money).
If the belt doesn't fit in a safe, you might be tempted to leave firearms out that you would otherwise have locked up. This might be a problem depending on who else lives/visits you.
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Hello friends and neighbors // +1 Muscle Memory and to training with your gear.
Muscle memory is a good thing.
You might consider the way you arrange your equipment.
Say you always carry your wallet in the right hand back pocket. It would be a good idea to place something important in that area of your belt. Just think about a normal frequent hand placement during your daily life.
My HD belt(from post #12) is set up with the same reaches as my work belt:
S&W357Magnum(4legproblem)/Hammer drill cross draw; /CZ40S&W(2leggedproblem)/Driver drill; Knife/hammer are also in the same reach area.
(The work belt is worn buckle in the back the HD belt buckle in front)
You may find a better set up using your normal reach areas wheather belt,vest or other.
+1 to the Tac. Flashlight also.
I just upgraded to the Solarforce L2 flashlight myself, late last year (thanks Jimdo) and blinding with the pluse is a great first move. When I am alone at the range I pratice shooting the 442 with the Solar Force(on pulse) in my left hand. Very effective, but it takes a bit of getting used to.
Muscle memory is a good thing.
You might consider the way you arrange your equipment.
Say you always carry your wallet in the right hand back pocket. It would be a good idea to place something important in that area of your belt. Just think about a normal frequent hand placement during your daily life.
My HD belt(from post #12) is set up with the same reaches as my work belt:
S&W357Magnum(4legproblem)/Hammer drill cross draw; /CZ40S&W(2leggedproblem)/Driver drill; Knife/hammer are also in the same reach area.
(The work belt is worn buckle in the back the HD belt buckle in front)You may find a better set up using your normal reach areas wheather belt,vest or other.
+1 to the Tac. Flashlight also.
I just upgraded to the Solarforce L2 flashlight myself, late last year (thanks Jimdo) and blinding with the pluse is a great first move. When I am alone at the range I pratice shooting the 442 with the Solar Force(on pulse) in my left hand. Very effective, but it takes a bit of getting used to.
Been using a similar setup for years.
Something useful for inclusion would be spare set of keys (1 to your house and 1 to a vehicle). It would be a bad thing to be locked out of a door at the very moment you desperately need to get back inside. It might be also handy to have the ability to quickly crank up a vehicle and move out if need be (or at least have your loved ones skedaddle from the danger zone). Place the pair on your belt with a $10.00 nylon duty key silencer. Keeps them quiet and snagfree while/if you need to move about in the dark.
Something useful for inclusion would be spare set of keys (1 to your house and 1 to a vehicle). It would be a bad thing to be locked out of a door at the very moment you desperately need to get back inside. It might be also handy to have the ability to quickly crank up a vehicle and move out if need be (or at least have your loved ones skedaddle from the danger zone). Place the pair on your belt with a $10.00 nylon duty key silencer. Keeps them quiet and snagfree while/if you need to move about in the dark.
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I guess it would work. If I hear tones in the middle of the night, I manage to get up, get in my bunker pants or EMS clothes, and get out the door in 60 seconds so I do not think putting on a belt would be a problem.
But. I am not trying to do it with any stealth. Personally... I want my gun and my flashlight.
Content... I am just curious... what do you do with the walkie talkies? Does someone else have the same setup in your home that you communicate with? Also, something else I have thought about is the cell phone. I keep mine plugged in charging at night. Do you keep yours in a pouch, off or charging?
This thread, and seeing what people are doing makes me think I should have a phone with me. As far as knives, spare guns, leather man tools, etc... I am a minimalist so I just want to see what the bump in the night is, stop the threat if there is one or go back to bed.... not mcgiver a snare to catch it.
But. I am not trying to do it with any stealth. Personally... I want my gun and my flashlight.
Content... I am just curious... what do you do with the walkie talkies? Does someone else have the same setup in your home that you communicate with? Also, something else I have thought about is the cell phone. I keep mine plugged in charging at night. Do you keep yours in a pouch, off or charging?
This thread, and seeing what people are doing makes me think I should have a phone with me. As far as knives, spare guns, leather man tools, etc... I am a minimalist so I just want to see what the bump in the night is, stop the threat if there is one or go back to bed.... not mcgiver a snare to catch it.
I ... do not think this will work for me.
Maybe you guys got Child-Bearing hips but by the time you load all that stuff on there lol...
I think the 5.11 vest is a much better idea. not the tactical one but the semi-normal looking one.
hang it in the closet, in with all your other clothes, hidden yet in full access.
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Maybe you guys got Child-Bearing hips but by the time you load all that stuff on there lol...
I think the 5.11 vest is a much better idea. not the tactical one but the semi-normal looking one.
hang it in the closet, in with all your other clothes, hidden yet in full access.
Like it.
I like the idea of having everything you might need at moments notice. It would be interesting to see how many people put on the belt on when they just hear a strange ‘bump’ in the night. I would think that most people would just grab the flashlight and the pistol on the nightstand and go investigate. On the other hand, if you were awaken to the sound of glass shattering and people yelling “lets get them”, that belt would be the best thing in the world.
On another note, it might be handy to have slippers, sandals, or other footwear accessible too. It would not be fun to walk across broken glass or go outside to evade a sticky situation. A few packets of QuikClot or other hemostatic agent to stop severe bleeding would not be a bad thing to add to the belt as well. It could save your life or the BG's life once he is incapacitated if shots are fired.
On another note, it might be handy to have slippers, sandals, or other footwear accessible too. It would not be fun to walk across broken glass or go outside to evade a sticky situation. A few packets of QuikClot or other hemostatic agent to stop severe bleeding would not be a bad thing to add to the belt as well. It could save your life or the BG's life once he is incapacitated if shots are fired.
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Glad the 5.11 vest idea helps.
After work, I generally change into sweats and socks for around the house. I leave my vest on. My daughter gets off work at various times, so if we have to go pick her up, I just throw my wallet into one of the many unused pockets, and off I go.
I figure what and why I wear around my house is NBDBBM...(No Body's Damn Business But Mine.)
After work, I generally change into sweats and socks for around the house. I leave my vest on. My daughter gets off work at various times, so if we have to go pick her up, I just throw my wallet into one of the many unused pockets, and off I go.
I figure what and why I wear around my house is NBDBBM...(No Body's Damn Business But Mine.)
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Hello friends and neighbors // The WT are for communication with the cabin if I need to go outside.
We each carry a WT if hunting/hiking/backpacking too.
I started using them as a child for fun. When I started hunting on my uncles property it was mandatory. The WT has gotten smaller and better over the years, these reach 16 miles in optimum conditions.
Where I hunt now they liked the idea of using WT and we have a drawer full. We keep them turned off until we hear a shot, then turn them on to hear who got a deer and who has to go for the ATV.
We use the same principle at the cabin, the WT in the house stays on. If I hear a shot at the cabin while I'm checking the vehicles/gate I turn mine on, shot or not I check in every 5 min or so. It is hard to sit around after hearing one shot not knowing who fired it or why. The WT is much better than the cell phone for this and can keep us in contact while the person in the cabin calls 911 if needed.
My cell is charging on the night stand not charging while in the belt ,but good idea. If I go outside the cell goes into the WT pouch if I need to use the cell I slip on the laynard first.
I have had several instances where the bump in the night was trouble. The more remote, the more danger,the less risk of BG being caught in the act, less chance of help other than what you have at hand. It seems I learn something each time. If you ever get your foot tangled in wire a multitool with side cutters might get added to your belt too. In my case the speed loaders and extra mags. are more for ammo versatility than extra ammo, but extra ammo never hurts.
If you are not used to wearing a tool belt or backpack you might want to try something else.
We each carry a WT if hunting/hiking/backpacking too.
I started using them as a child for fun. When I started hunting on my uncles property it was mandatory. The WT has gotten smaller and better over the years, these reach 16 miles in optimum conditions.
Where I hunt now they liked the idea of using WT and we have a drawer full. We keep them turned off until we hear a shot, then turn them on to hear who got a deer and who has to go for the ATV.
We use the same principle at the cabin, the WT in the house stays on. If I hear a shot at the cabin while I'm checking the vehicles/gate I turn mine on, shot or not I check in every 5 min or so. It is hard to sit around after hearing one shot not knowing who fired it or why. The WT is much better than the cell phone for this and can keep us in contact while the person in the cabin calls 911 if needed.
My cell is charging on the night stand not charging while in the belt ,but good idea. If I go outside the cell goes into the WT pouch if I need to use the cell I slip on the laynard first.
I have had several instances where the bump in the night was trouble. The more remote, the more danger,the less risk of BG being caught in the act, less chance of help other than what you have at hand. It seems I learn something each time. If you ever get your foot tangled in wire a multitool with side cutters might get added to your belt too.
In my case the speed loaders and extra mags. are more for ammo versatility than extra ammo, but extra ammo never hurts.If you are not used to wearing a tool belt or backpack you might want to try something else.
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kd7nqb
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I have kept a tac vest all loaded up on my bed post, it looks dorky but it will work. I see no problem with using a belt or vest. Heck I even like the idea of a set of "go pants" all loaded up.
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Maxpedition versipak
Even Wal*Mart sells it.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Maxpediti...0000003260430&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=13031645
Even Wal*Mart sells it.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Maxpediti...0000003260430&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=13031645
the idea isn't to hear a noise and then strap on your belt, it is to have the belt close at hand, loaded with some of the "of the moment gear" that you might need so that you don't have to waste time fumbling around looking for something.
Having everything in a belt / bag / vest is a WHOLE LOT BETTER than having it stuffed in 3 or 4 different drawers.
I have one
Duty rig
- Model 64 Revolver
- two reloads
- Flashlight
- old cell phone
- radio pouch
- silent type key holder with keys
- random dump pouch
Don't need anything else really. System works as good as anything and better than most. Anyone who laughs it off, hasn't had a confrontation.
Another good option is a M.O.L.L.E. vest / FLC because they are configurable similar to a duty rig, but more so. Although, you don't really need that much, but depending on where you live you might need some extra goodies.
Having everything in a belt / bag / vest is a WHOLE LOT BETTER than having it stuffed in 3 or 4 different drawers.
I have one
Duty rig
- Model 64 Revolver
- two reloads
- Flashlight
- old cell phone
- radio pouch
- silent type key holder with keys
- random dump pouch
Don't need anything else really. System works as good as anything and better than most. Anyone who laughs it off, hasn't had a confrontation.
Another good option is a M.O.L.L.E. vest / FLC because they are configurable similar to a duty rig, but more so. Although, you don't really need that much, but depending on where you live you might need some extra goodies.
I have an extra Level IIIA body armor w/ plates. I've been toying with the idea of getting a non-military esque carrier and setting it up as a "go to" vest with a few needed items.
Step 1 wake up, get handgun gun and light, wife on 911 w/ cell and her pistol. Listen, no immediate threat, put on handy vest/versipack or belt (she is covering). Step 3, put on electronic ears and I'm ready for full on CQB, get the kids consolidated, wait on police or perps...lord help them at that point.
So, a time graduated response. Light, cell and handgun immediately, then just upgrade gear and position until you are as ready for anything as your planning (and the perp's timetable) will allow.
Sounds silly typing on the internet, but who here has ever read a news story about multiple armed home invaders, tying up residents and doing all sorts of terrorizing before the police show up?
There's nothing silly or "internet commando" IMHO about meeting such a situation with a gun, spare gun, cell, reloads and light (or 2). Body armor...why not, if you have it? I could care less what a lawyer tries to make out of it later, I'm way worse off at home against surprise intruders, outnumbered, than doing room clearing with a team and air support in Iraq. Yet, nobody questions the armor and gear worn by the military when dealing with armed people in houses.
If you don't have armor or a 5.11 type vest...it's kinda spendy but: http://dsgarms.com/index.cfm/product/1755_139/covert-ops-vest-w-level-ii-body-armor-tan---large.cfm this would be a "Cadillac" option you could also wear around town!
Step 1 wake up, get handgun gun and light, wife on 911 w/ cell and her pistol. Listen, no immediate threat, put on handy vest/versipack or belt (she is covering). Step 3, put on electronic ears and I'm ready for full on CQB, get the kids consolidated, wait on police or perps...lord help them at that point.
So, a time graduated response. Light, cell and handgun immediately, then just upgrade gear and position until you are as ready for anything as your planning (and the perp's timetable) will allow.
Sounds silly typing on the internet, but who here has ever read a news story about multiple armed home invaders, tying up residents and doing all sorts of terrorizing before the police show up?
There's nothing silly or "internet commando" IMHO about meeting such a situation with a gun, spare gun, cell, reloads and light (or 2). Body armor...why not, if you have it? I could care less what a lawyer tries to make out of it later, I'm way worse off at home against surprise intruders, outnumbered, than doing room clearing with a team and air support in Iraq. Yet, nobody questions the armor and gear worn by the military when dealing with armed people in houses.
If you don't have armor or a 5.11 type vest...it's kinda spendy but: http://dsgarms.com/index.cfm/product/1755_139/covert-ops-vest-w-level-ii-body-armor-tan---large.cfm this would be a "Cadillac" option you could also wear around town!
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