Benchmade Axis lock failures?

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Has anyone heard of or directly experienced a failure with any of the Axis locks? I was reading how one gentleman on the board likes locks that are simple and robust and dislikes assisted openers and other locking mechanisms dependant on small springs/metal parts.

So how durable are the Axis locks? Are they more prone than say a liner lock to fail and leave the blade flopping around?

Last question...what do you consider the best locking system? Liner lock? Lock back? Why?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Other guys can answer this in more technical, precise terms for you, but I like the Axis lock just fine. My suspicion is, all things being equal, a liner lock is probably stronger (though that is just a guess on my part). I can't imagine what I would need to be doing to make an Axis lock fail.

Just to get it out of the way because I can see it coming., safe knife handling largely eliminates worries about lock failure.
 
Use a knife as it is meant to be used and it will last several lifetimes, abuse it and it will fail...simple enough.
 
I have carried a MiniGriptillian everyday for 4 years and have never had it fail. I use it for regular pocket knife type tasks. I would say that the Axis is as strong or stronger than liner locks. You can watch some YouTube torture tests to see how much is takes to make it fail.
 
I have had two liner locks fail over the years, including one very old Benchmade, and one very new CRKT.

I have since carried an Axis-Lock Benchmade daily for over six years now.
I simply can't think of any way it could fail, short of a sheared blade henge bolt.

Even if one spring were to fail, the other one would still push the axis-lock forward and lock the blade.

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Axis Lock is good. Better than any other locking system that I know, definitely better than traditional liner lock.

Axis Lock design is one of those things that when you see them for the first time you immediately think "why nobody did it that way before, it's so obvious".

I've used a Benchmade knife with Axis Lock for more than 5 years and never had any problems with the lock.
 
Well that's good to hear. I did some more research and discovered that the omega springs do fail, but not very often at all. I love the locking mechanism personally.
 
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They're very strong. More than what I need. But a Buck 110 or Spyderco endura's lock is adequate for any cutting tasks. I've stabbed radial tires with both and the lock hasn't failed.
 
Locks similar to the Axis lock and working on the same principal are SOG's Arc Lock and Spyderco's ball lock. They're equally sturdy.

Spyderco's Compression Lock is different but equally sturdy.

Any of a variety of button locks are dependable as well.

I've never heard of a Sebenza frame lock failing.
 
What's the intended use for the knife?

If you're doing anything that's likely to cause a lock to fail (i.e., putting stress on it in the closing direction when it's locked), then you're not using it properly.

There could be legitimate reasons for using a folding knife as something other than a non-folding knife, such as a pry bar, or forcing the tip into something hard, etc.

The article posted is on ETS, so you may be thinking of the knife as a survival tool.

The Axis lock is very strong. That said, you should STILL avoid using it as anything other than a folding knife.

As for reliability, not so much more reliable than any other folder. The only folding knife I've had malfunction -- ever -- is my Benchmade mini-grip.

The action relies on two omega springs, one on each side. When the springs break, the action doesn't lock. The blade also flops around when it's closed.

My omega springs went on my knife after about six months of normal use. No flipping it open, or other bone-head moves involved. Cut nothing tougher than corrugated cardboard. Sent it back. Got it back with new springs and pretty quickly.

Six months later, springs out again. Sent it back, got it back with a much more extensive list of work done, and it's been fine since then. I suspect one of the other bits inside were simply wearing against my springs and they replaced or worked on any possible culprits. Judging by everyone else's reports it was probably very much a fluke.

Benchmade has excellent customer service and backs up their products.

Folders are inherently less reliable than fixed blades, which is why most folks suggest fixed blades as a first pick for a survival knife. Simply because folders fold. On the other hand, almost any folder will do the job in a survival situation, provided it's of good quality. The big plus of the Axis lock here is that if it does fail for some reason, you can put a twig or something behind the bar to keep it locked open. I tried it when my springs were out and it works fine.

So, basically: It's a good lock, a great company, but I think because it does have extra failure points over other designs (the springs), it may have a very slightly higher chance to fail at any given day. Not enough to worry about, and if it does fail, you're OK if you have a twig or something else handy to jam in the lock.
 
Not intending on using my Presidio as a survival knife, I have fixed blades for that possible need. I was really just curious about the locking system and what others had experienced with their Benchmades. Interesting story about your knife and the failures; sorry you had to go through that, sounds like a pain, regardless of BM's good CS.
 
Use a knife as it is meant to be used and it will last several lifetimes, abuse it and it will fail...simple enough.

Actually, knives fail when used properly and there are numerous testaments online to verify this fact. Abuse will certainly accelerate wear or cause a failure...but your point is well taken.
 
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Ok, so this thread got me paranoid that my axis locks would chop my fingers off, so I called BM.

I saw the video with the 710 being wacked on the table, and the lock "failing".

BM rep over the phone wacks his rift 4 times, loudly, and said I think it's fine. I wasn't going to do it with mine, but I'm glad he did, I feel better anyway. :)
 
I've owned 100+ Benchmades over the years...of which the majority have been axis locks. At least 10 of which were very hard users. The axis lock is rock solid and has never failed on any of my knives.
 
i'm a fixed blade guy, but there's a BM in my pocket (as a "secondary" knife) as i type this. it was a first production run 710 bought in 99 (i think). it's never failed me. like i said, i'm not crazy about already broken (aka folding) knives, but the Axis lock is 2nd place as the lock i consider the strongest and would trust the most.
 
All good info to know. Thanks everyone and keep posting your experiences with the Axis lock.
 
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