Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by 2bfree, May 8, 2013.
As stated before, they are great pistols. They are very,very reliable.
Yeah, install the "D" spring (hammer spring) and the skeletonized Elite II hammer, and you're good to go. Congrats, they are great guns, and represent a good value for what you get.
I just picked up a Taurus PT-92 AF today after comparing it with the Beretta.
I liked the feel of the grips, the position of the safety and the asthetics of the
gun better than the Beretta. The price was the deciding factor for me. I did
like the sights and finish better on the Beretta but I went with the Taurus instead.
I own several Taurus revolvers and have had no problems with them so I have
decided to give one of their semiautos a chance. My best friend has a PT-92 and
I have shot it on several occassions and liked it so I figured I would roll the dice.
Thanks for the tip.
I concur concerning the D spring. Makes a world of difference and it's a factory spring with no light strikes, etc.
I am a new gun person. Saving $200 on a used vs. new gun purchase just doesn't make any sense - to me.
No reason NOT to buy new, and if you get extra comfort from doing so, or are concerned about warranties, go for it. While warranties are wonderful, they're a bit like car warranties: reaassuring but less used than might have been the case some years ago. With the exception of some Kel-Tec guns, I don't remember when I last bought a gun new -- it's been years.
I bought a P-11, a PF-9, and a P3AT, all new, and a 9mm and .40 Sub2000, used. Never had problems with any of them, and still carry the PF-9. Didn't care for the P3AT or the similar Ruger LCP. In retrospect, I wish I had kept that 9mm Sub2000... may have to get another one, one of these days.
I have bought many used guns, sight unseen until I go to my FFL to do the transfer. Never had any problems.
I even had a bad run in with Beretta Customer Service, and I still recommend the 92 to anyone that asks. Buying used could save some money. I have bought a few pistols and rifles used and never had an issue. Get one, and enjoy it, you won't regret it.
If global popularity is so relevant when deciding which of many pistols is "best", I have to wonder how many nations issued the 1911 pistol to their troops over the years, other than America and a couple of Banana Republics in South America? Is the rest of the world "right" and the U.S. "wrong" just because we relied on the 1911 platform as a military fighting pistol when most of the rest of the world opted for something "better"?
I don't like the trigger.
As Pilot said earlier, get the D spring, it REALLY does improve the trigger. I put one on mine, and the DA pull is greatly improved
Well, I got a chance to fire this thing, I really like it. The grip is great, weight is great, Trigger in SA is very good, could use some help in DA. Accuracy is very good using factory ammo, my reloads not so much. They were worked up for a much shorter barreled pistol so I have some work to do on them. I shot 200 rounds 50 factory, 150 reloads, not one problem. Easy to clean, what more can I ask ? I like it.
And that, my friend, is all that matters.
I have one, love it, but they have a fat butt.
I like big butts and I cannot lie...
You simply need to modify your immediate actions to include making sure the manual safety is disengaged before your recover from the stoppage and attempt to shoot again:
2) Roll & Rack
3) Safety Off
No big deal.
I carried the identical 96FS on police patrol in Bremerton, WA for several years. I chose it because I wanted the longer 5-inch barrel and the longer sight-radius. It never hiccuped - not once.
One problem I had was my holster - a Safariland SSIII 0705 - when snapping the thumb snap closed it would occasionally disengage the manual safety if I didn't pay attention. Since the pistol was equipped with a manual safety I always carried it with the manual safety engaged and I trained to always disengage it during presentation. I'd initially taught myself to key on the "feel" as I disengaged the manual safety with my thumb - however when the manual safety was in the disengaged position there was no "feel". The first time it happened (reality didn't meet my expectation) I paused and looked at the pistol to see what was "wrong" - the manual safety was already disengaged. Hmmm... I decided I needed to change my technique to make it insensitive to the position of the manual safety lever. My solution was to simply slide my thumb along the top edge of the grip panel - this action would always ensure the manual safety was disengaged. I learned to "key" off of the feel of my thumb sliding along the grip panel (instead of my thumb touching and moving the safety lever). After that I drove-on and never had a problem.
Good luck with your new 92FS!
Congrats! Great choice!
I shoot the Beretta 92 Elite II in competition - USPSA, IDPA, Steel+. It's a G model so the safety is only a decocker. It has some nice features such as a lightly beveled mag well, the lighter D hammer spring, checkered front- and back-straps, extended mag release... Super reliable and more accurate than I am. (Of course, Beretta, in their "wisdom," no longer makes this pistol.)
I shot the .40 Taurus version, PT-101 I believe. Loved it. It's big and heavy, but shoots well and holds much ammo. Really liked the feel of it, too.
Many convert their 92FS's with the D spring, and Elite II hammer as I have. Converting to a "G" for decocker only is a bit more work. Yes, Beretta should make the G again.
The only reason I can think of not to buy is because Beretta is still located in MD. They have not put their money were their mouth is.
I think they are good pistols however.
When I retired in 1998, my agency was still mandating the third generation, da/sa Smith autos as our carry sidearm. With these very reliable and well-made pistols, especially when performing malfunction drills on "stove-pipe" jams, on rare occasions the safety could be inadvertently moved to "safe" by the palm of the hand sweeping over the top of the pistol. Knowing this could happen resulted in adhering to an additional step to our malf drill protocol, as explained above (step no. 3).
And, as Shawn Dodson said, it's "no big deal". Enjoy your new Beretta. It's a great pistol.
Not a good reason.
They moved their warehouse out to VA during the last round of legislation in the 90's. It sounds like they are going ahead and finishing the move this time although I am not sure they announced the new home.
Latest is this: http://www.berettausa.com/berettasstatementonsb281/
Well from what I am hearing, Beretta will be moving some functions out of MD, but certainly not expanding anything there anymore.
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