We also shot a glock 22 at 200' and the bullet was big and slow enough that if u stand behind the shooter u can actually see the bullet fly to the target, the 40 cal has a higher rate of drop due to its 300 fps slower muzzle velocity. I highly Roccomend attempting this, it is extremely fun, and show what a pistol can do. Now for stopping power, I wouldn't shoot past 125 yards, but for at the range it is a good test of accuracy. Wouldn't reccomend if you can't get decent groups at 50. What made the 40 cal easier to shoot at 200yds was the fact that u could have a spotter see the bullet flying to the target, so he could give instant corrections, and it isn't easy to keep your groups consistent, but is possible to keep them I. Groups of a couple feet
Beretta 92 is it all that
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I have a slick 17L with adj. night sights, polished trigger and internal components, different guide rods for different duties (mostly the 15lb'r on a stainless rod for range work) and my custom ext. slide release. For the most part, it is all stock, and has a very smooth 2.5lb. trigger. It is VERY accurate, much more so than any M9 or 92FS I've shot.
But the 92FS is a very well built pistol and has a very slick action. It works, and it works well. But that first DA trigger pull isn't for everyone, so just know that. That is why I prefer a striker fire pistol (or single action save that, but striker fired pistols are usually simpler, ie, the Glock).
My 2nd gen. Glock 17, it is all stock save the cheap (but nice) night sights I got for $50 (Truglo? Mepro?) the titanium rod with factory spring, and the custom ext. slide release I make using factory ones and emery cloth and JB weld. The internals are polished on this one too, and it has a NY orange trigger. My trigger scale won't go higher than 4.5lb, but it is a nice, smooth but stiff trigger. Here the polish really made a difference. It is important when you polish a glock not to change the geometry though.
With a 92FS, there isn't much you need to do to it. Most folks are satisfied with the Glocks as is, but I've been using and tinkering with them for years so I know what I like in one. There are aftermarket parts to change the trigger profile on the 92, but I haven't tried them. The biggest problem with the DA pull is it is sooooo loooong --then it goes bang. The SA pull isn't too bad, but it isn't a crisp SA pull like on a 1911 by a longshot.
I'd try that trigger out first for sure, rent one or something. If you like it, I guarantee the you'll like the pistol in general, they are real nice. If you can't get past that DA trigger pull, forget about it. Look at strikers or SA pistols (or Sig, they make a nice DA trigger).
As for accuracy, a Glock is just as accurate as a Beretta, and in some cases more so. They can both be fitted with Barsto barrels for more accuracy.
If you plan on suppressing the pistol, the Beretta is a good choice because of how it locks up. I don't think you need a booster on the Beretta, but I could be wrong, it's been a while since I looked into them for the Beretta.
But the 92FS is a very well built pistol and has a very slick action. It works, and it works well. But that first DA trigger pull isn't for everyone, so just know that. That is why I prefer a striker fire pistol (or single action save that, but striker fired pistols are usually simpler, ie, the Glock).
My 2nd gen. Glock 17, it is all stock save the cheap (but nice) night sights I got for $50 (Truglo? Mepro?) the titanium rod with factory spring, and the custom ext. slide release I make using factory ones and emery cloth and JB weld. The internals are polished on this one too, and it has a NY orange trigger. My trigger scale won't go higher than 4.5lb, but it is a nice, smooth but stiff trigger. Here the polish really made a difference. It is important when you polish a glock not to change the geometry though.
With a 92FS, there isn't much you need to do to it. Most folks are satisfied with the Glocks as is, but I've been using and tinkering with them for years so I know what I like in one. There are aftermarket parts to change the trigger profile on the 92, but I haven't tried them. The biggest problem with the DA pull is it is sooooo loooong --then it goes bang. The SA pull isn't too bad, but it isn't a crisp SA pull like on a 1911 by a longshot.
I'd try that trigger out first for sure, rent one or something. If you like it, I guarantee the you'll like the pistol in general, they are real nice. If you can't get past that DA trigger pull, forget about it. Look at strikers or SA pistols (or Sig, they make a nice DA trigger).
As for accuracy, a Glock is just as accurate as a Beretta, and in some cases more so. They can both be fitted with Barsto barrels for more accuracy.
If you plan on suppressing the pistol, the Beretta is a good choice because of how it locks up. I don't think you need a booster on the Beretta, but I could be wrong, it's been a while since I looked into them for the Beretta.
A longer barrel doesn't make a gun more accurate. A consistent design and a well made barrel that doesn't flex much make an accurate gun. I shot my Glock 27 better than any of my fullsize pistols, except maybe the CZ PCR with the Kadet slide on it. Lots of people seem to shoot the subcompact Glocks better than the compact or fullsize models.
I'd have to say a smooth trigger matters more than a light one. A lot more. I tend to do better with a fulltime DA or DA Improved (I like that description of the striker fired "DAO" pistols, it's a great picture of how they feel) pistol, I think because I pay more attention to my trigger pull and sights, where a single action trigger can entice me to try to snap a shot as I'm still getting the sights aligned.
I'm not everyone, but I'm nothing special either, what works to help me be a consistent and proficient shooter can help anyone.
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SharpsDressedMan
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I can tell you this: The acton job done on my Beretta 92FS by Teddy Jacobson did not hurt it any. If you have a Beretta 92 with a gritty or heavy trigger, contact Teddy. Worth the expense, if you like the gun in other ways. www.actionsbyt.com/
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It also doesn't help that the military uses the cheapest third party mags available. I've had my M9 for about six months. While it is heavy, it's very accurate and reliable.
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Man, some people on here have had really long military careers, the 1911 went away a long time ago. When I was in (02-06) I never even saw one. Also, I remember that not that many Marines seemed to really care about the pistols. Pistols are an after thought to the military. Out of four years in the Corps I say I spent maybe 4 or 5 days training with the M9. To me, saying that military members love or hate their pistols is kinda like saying they love or hate their helmet covers. They are both just kinda there. That said, I love the 92/M9.
92FS Compact...!!!
Reading this thread, it seems one of the main complaints about the 92FS is that it's too big for concealed carry.
I just recently bought a brand new 92FS Compact. It isn't alot smaller than the regular 92FS, but there's a enough difference that it's noticable for CCW. I carry it very easilty in my bellyband, every day at work in dress slacks, dress shirt, and tie. It's so comfortable, I forget it's there. At home, I wear shorts, a tee shirt, and a light short sleeved casual shirt, with the belly band in between the tee shirt and casual shirt. I can barely tell the difference between carrying my 92FS Compact or one of my other, smaller guns (Beretta Cheetah, NightGuard Revolver, Colt New Agent, or S&W M&P 9c).
The 92FS is easily my most accurate pistol. First time at the range, from 21', I did the "one ragged" hole thing with my first two mags. I was thrilled with the accuracy, and the very soft recoil. I'm totally infatuated with my 92FS Compact!
Reading this thread, it seems one of the main complaints about the 92FS is that it's too big for concealed carry.
I just recently bought a brand new 92FS Compact. It isn't alot smaller than the regular 92FS, but there's a enough difference that it's noticable for CCW. I carry it very easilty in my bellyband, every day at work in dress slacks, dress shirt, and tie. It's so comfortable, I forget it's there. At home, I wear shorts, a tee shirt, and a light short sleeved casual shirt, with the belly band in between the tee shirt and casual shirt. I can barely tell the difference between carrying my 92FS Compact or one of my other, smaller guns (Beretta Cheetah, NightGuard Revolver, Colt New Agent, or S&W M&P 9c).
The 92FS is easily my most accurate pistol. First time at the range, from 21', I did the "one ragged" hole thing with my first two mags. I was thrilled with the accuracy, and the very soft recoil. I'm totally infatuated with my 92FS Compact!
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The centurion , which I carry is bad a**! Love it.
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I carried an M9(Gov't issue 92fs) for my entire time in the Marines. Honestly, I loved the thing. It's wasn't the ideal pistol for me, pretty thick staggered stack grip, but I was forced to know that thing inside and out. Extremely reliable, accurate(ish), classic. I've put off purchasing one for myself b/c I'm much more of a .45 guy these days. I think I'll end up settling for the 96 (.40cal). But 92's are great too. 15+1, not too heavy, 9mm is pretty effective with well aimed shots.
Using basic marksmanship fundamentals, you can become deadly accurate with any pistol. When I was in, a buddy of mine shared his secret with me. He would only shoot in DA from the 25yd and further. DA at that distance forces you to concentrate on the squeeze and that front sight tip. It improved my shooting SO much.
I say go for it. I'll probably be picking up a 96, but if I see a 92 for the right price, I won't hesitate. Oh, and 9mm is CHEEEEEEEEAP.
Using basic marksmanship fundamentals, you can become deadly accurate with any pistol. When I was in, a buddy of mine shared his secret with me. He would only shoot in DA from the 25yd and further. DA at that distance forces you to concentrate on the squeeze and that front sight tip. It improved my shooting SO much.
I say go for it. I'll probably be picking up a 96, but if I see a 92 for the right price, I won't hesitate. Oh, and 9mm is CHEEEEEEEEAP.
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A Beretta 92 is better than a Glock or HK BECAUSE: You can put nice wood grips on it! http://www.esmeralda.cc/snCD7540.jpg
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Issued one in the USMC. Thought of it as a tool back then. It works.
Just bought a Desert Storm Commemorative model ( I was in 90-94) just for nostalgia's sake. Forgot what a nice shooting pistol it is now that I have gone down the road a couple decades. Accurate, easy to shoot, smooth as buttah!
It was never meant to be a CC weapon. For home defense, open carry, or general field carry, it is a fantastic firearm. I count it as one of the great values in handguns as you can pick them up used fairly cheaply.
So yeah, it is all that and a bag of chips and I am still a cocky Marine and not some nebulous "buddy" of someone that was probably a REMF to begin with.
Not as lean, a little less mean and still 100% MARINE
Just bought a Desert Storm Commemorative model ( I was in 90-94) just for nostalgia's sake. Forgot what a nice shooting pistol it is now that I have gone down the road a couple decades. Accurate, easy to shoot, smooth as buttah!
It was never meant to be a CC weapon. For home defense, open carry, or general field carry, it is a fantastic firearm. I count it as one of the great values in handguns as you can pick them up used fairly cheaply.
So yeah, it is all that and a bag of chips and I am still a cocky Marine and not some nebulous "buddy" of someone that was probably a REMF to begin with.
Not as lean, a little less mean and still 100% MARINE
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I guess because I shoot a lot of DA revolver I don't see what the big deal is with a DA/SA trigger for the first DA shot. The revolver has taught me how to hold the sight picture as my trigger finger builds up pressure on the trigger until it goes BANG!
As for the 92fs, I really like mine. It's a big feeling gun for sure as the frame and grips are somewhat fatter than many other 9mm options. But it's a great shooter for those of us with the hands that fit the gun well.
The stock grips are a bit thick and square edged. A switch to grips with a more arch like profile and/or which are thinner than stock should make the gun fit more folks' hands better. The "fat and flat" grips is my only criticism of this Beretta platform.
As for the 92fs, I really like mine. It's a big feeling gun for sure as the frame and grips are somewhat fatter than many other 9mm options. But it's a great shooter for those of us with the hands that fit the gun well.
The stock grips are a bit thick and square edged. A switch to grips with a more arch like profile and/or which are thinner than stock should make the gun fit more folks' hands better. The "fat and flat" grips is my only criticism of this Beretta platform.
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Alumagrips are a good bit thinner than the factory plastic ones and have nice sharp checkering as well. Im a fan and would suggest anyone who likes the 92 but could use a grip slimmer than stock, and much slimmer than the Hogues a try.
Oh, and yes, I do believe the 92 series is all that and more.
Oh, and yes, I do believe the 92 series is all that and more.
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Issued one in the USMC. Thought of it as a tool back then. It works.
Just bought a Desert Storm Commemorative model ( I was in 90-94) just for nostalgia's sake. Forgot what a nice shooting pistol it is now that I have gone down the road a couple decades. Accurate, easy to shoot, smooth as buttah!
It was never meant to be a CC weapon. For home defense, open carry, or general field carry, it is a fantastic firearm. I count it as one of the great values in handguns as you can pick them up used fairly cheaply.
So yeah, it is all that and a bag of chips and I am still a cocky Marine and not some nebulous "buddy" of someone that was probably a REMF to begin with.
Not as lean, a little less mean and still 100% MARINE
Very well put and I agree it tends to be quite difficult to CCW full-size pieces like the 92 but it can be done if you are willing to put up with the initial hassle--I'm not so I settled on the best high cap small 9mm I could find.
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I have both the full size 92FS and the "compact" 92FS and love both of them. My very first semi auto was a S&W 5906, which I still own and the only reason I didn't buy a Beretta back then was my good buddy bought one and I needed to own something different. I've also owned the 96 and love that version too. I vote BUY!
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If it fits good in your hand and it's comfortable, ergonomic, etc, then sure. I liked them until I got my hands on one and shot it. They look great and they have a great reputation, but in my hands it was just a little too blocky. I picked up a CZ75B after thinking I didn't like the way they look and fell in love 100%. I would take a CZ 10 out of 10 times if given the choice between it and the 92.
I've shot the M9 a bit at work but have only had the chance to qualify with it once. I personally have only seen one M9 malfunction, and it was due to a complete and utter lack of any CLP whatsoever and some carbon buildup. Pretty much all the complaints I've heard voiced were about the 9mm round itself, not the pistol.
My admittedly limited experience with the Beretta 92FS has been completely positive. I routinely conceal carry mine.
My admittedly limited experience with the Beretta 92FS has been completely positive. I routinely conceal carry mine.
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I have a 92f and a 92fs centurian. My first semi-auto purchase was the 92f which was an ex local PD weapon which the officer apparently tried to use for a hammer but, it's a solid and accurate shooter and will probably be one on the last pistols I ever sell.
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I love the M9. Period. It shoots great, and is completely reliable. Everytime I had to place rounds down range, they went where I wanted them to. I carried the pistol on more missions then I bothered to keep track of in Iraq, and I never worried that it wouldnt function. Ever. I have trusted my life to this pistol, and would do so again if I needed to- I think that says all you can say about a firearm.
Im think the reason alot if military people dont like it is because they dont know squat about guns. They think being in the military means they know their crap. They dont. They assume a 9mm is a weak round even if they have never fired anything else. True story. Or they complain about the issued ammo. Ammo is not a handguns fault. Its a users. The few legitimate issues with this platform were smoothed out long ago.
Im think the reason alot if military people dont like it is because they dont know squat about guns. They think being in the military means they know their crap. They dont. They assume a 9mm is a weak round even if they have never fired anything else. True story. Or they complain about the issued ammo. Ammo is not a handguns fault. Its a users. The few legitimate issues with this platform were smoothed out long ago.
I carried the M-9 for 10 years in the US Army including several combat deployments. I trained with the M-9 A LOT!!!! I also carried the M-9 as a law enforcement duty weapon for a while. If properly maintained, lubricated, and with good quality magazines the M-9 or Beretta 92FS will do it's part. I have trusted my life to it and would again.
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I like shooting the 92fs, the only issue I have is the trigger pull seems a bit long in DA. But it's a smooth shooting pistol and fun to just shoot. It would be difficult to conceal since it is a large honkin' gun! But very fun to shoot!
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This is the Beretta 92 Steel I. The absolute finest gun I own. (And I've got a bunch.)
It combines the slick action of a 92FS with the 1911-like style of the Vertec grip, a frame mounted safety, a more robust Brigadier slide, a skeletonized hammer, competition sights, and an adjustable SINGLE ACTION ONLY trigger.
Now good luck going out and finding one. (You still can buy them new in Australia, but DA/SA only.) Happy shooting!
It combines the slick action of a 92FS with the 1911-like style of the Vertec grip, a frame mounted safety, a more robust Brigadier slide, a skeletonized hammer, competition sights, and an adjustable SINGLE ACTION ONLY trigger.
Now good luck going out and finding one. (You still can buy them new in Australia, but DA/SA only.) Happy shooting!
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