Beretta 92FS A1 or M9A1

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are there noteworthy differences 92fs A1 vs M9A1? I've read all the specs.

92FS A1 touts replaceable front sight. could the M9A1 actually be non-replaceable?

other than the squared off trigger guard of the M9 is anything else significant, difference-wise?
 
The 92A1 has a removable front sight, the M9A1 front sight is fixed, like a traditional 92/M9. The 92A1 has an internal recoil buffer and a captive recoil spring/guide rod assembly, the M9A1 has the traditional 92 internals. They come with different types of magazines - the 92A1 comes with 17-round magazines, and the M9A1 comes with 15-round sand-resistant coated magazines. The M9A1 has a beveled magazine well and checkered front and back straps. The trigger guard shapes are different, as you mentioned.

That's about it, off the top of my head. Maybe I missed 1 or 2 little things.

Oh, I also think that the 92A1 slide has a few spots that are a little thicker or "beefed-up". But I haven't held them side by side.

I have a 92FS, and if I were going to get another Beretta, it would be the M9A1, and I'd send it off to get tritium installed in the front sight, and a matching tritium rear 2-dot sight. I like having as many metal parts in my Beretta as possible, and I think if you want to swap out the plastic guide rod in the 92A1 for an aftermarket steel one, you have to use some sort of spacer or washer, because of the recoil buffer in the frame.
 
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I borrowed this from a post from forum member Shipwreck, he's my "go to" forum member for my Beretta 92 questions. I he doesn't pop in to answer your questions you may want to send him a PM.

M9A1 - Railed frame with a 92FS slide (3 dot sights). The front of the frame (where the rail is at) looks like the Vertec model. But it has the standard 92FS grip. The magwell also has a slight bevel, and the rear and front backstraps have a light checkering on them. Available in 9mm only, and this gun is only made in the USA.

This gun comes with two specially PVD coated 15 round magazines (which are expensive when bought separately).

I think the M9A1 is the coolest LOOKING railed model. But, the checkering is not deep on the frame, like it is on a 1911. I personally prefer the regular serrations, as I find that they give a better grip purchase.



90-Two - Commonly known as the "90-Dash-Two" or "The Dash." This is a redesigned version of the 92FS that came out in 2006. The slide and frame were redesigned. The guiderod is captured, and there is a recoil buffer built into the frame. It also has a front, dovetailed sight. Several of the small parts are totally different from the standard 92 design (hammer, mag release, trigger bar, slide safety switches).

The biggest difference is the grip. While the gun is not polymer, it does come with a polymer, slip on grip. This gun will be in limited production for 2011 (so get one now if you want one). There is hardly any aftermarket support, and the lack of aftermarket grips is really hurting sales. These are ONLY made in Italy. Available in 9mm and 40 cal. The gun comes with factory 17 round mags (in 9mm)

(I personally do not like the polymer grip - too slippery. I tried several solutions to this issue, but found none worthwhile)



92A1 - Newest release of the 92 - Released in the summer of 2010. This design takes some of the best aspects of the 90-Two... The rail, internal recoil buffer and dovetailed front sight (all great changes), and puts it into a more "normal" 92 frame. The 92A1 (and 96A1) will use standard Beretta 92 grips. The trigger guard is curved; however, like that of the 90-Two. The guiderod is also captured (which is a pro or con, depending on who you ask).

In addition - the slide is a little bit beefier than a standard 92 slide.

The gun is available in 9mm and 40 cal (the 96A1), and the 9mm version comes with THREE 17 round factory mags (the same mags that come with the 90-Two). These guns are only made in Italy.

This is a such better choice to the 90-TWO, IMHO. Also, the 92A1 balances the best in a 1 handed grip out of any of the railed models. I also personally find the 92A1 is my second fav Beretta 92 variant - right behind the standard 92FS (which balances the best 1 handed, IMHO).

There is also finally aftermarket night sights for the 92A1 from Trijicon now. And, while others may disagree - I personally like the regular front and rear strap serrations over the checkering on the M9A1. The checkering is rather shallow - so its not nearly as grippy as checkering on a 1911. I think the standard serrations on the front and back strap give a better grip.
 
And whatever choice you make, be sure to order yourself a "D" hammer spring, from the Beretta D models, which were double-action only guns. It costs less than $5, takes less than 5 minutes to install, and takes pounds off the double-action trigger pull, while still keeping primer ignition 100% reliable. It is the best modification you can make to a Beretta.
 
and is their skeletonized hammer a good idea or not?

Sure, why not? I have one on mine, and it has worked just fine for thousands of rounds. It is designed to fall faster than the standard hammer, but you'd probably need super powers to notice the difference.

Here are the modifications I've made to my Beretta 92FS, in order of how great they are:

• Installed D spring
• Alumagrips (a hair thinner and more rounded than the stock plastic grips, and about 10 times more "grippy")
• Oversized, checkered metal magazine release
• Steel guide rod
• Skeletonized hammer

I still want to replace the other polymer or polymer-coated pieces with metal ones (trigger, mainspring cap/lanyard loop, safety lever), and replace the mainspring housing roll pin with a dog bone pin. Then my 92FS will be perfect...:)
 
I see someone beat me to it with pasting in a previous post. Good deal.

As for the skeletonized hammer - I always put them on all my Berettas. Only ones I never dis was the M9A1 (previously owned a few). I kinda liked the look of the factory hammer on that particular model.

Skeletonized hammers are really just cosmetic. I do have them on all of my current 92s.

The prices used to be around $25 - now they are around $40. So, the price for them has gone up.
 
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Only thing I've put on mine is a D spring. Great gun.

I don't think it's been mentioned but it also has a chrome lined barrel...
 
Are you going to put a light on this gun? If not, why not just go with the 92FS?

If I had to pick between the 92A1, and M9A1, I'd go with the 92A1 as I like the looks of the curved trigger guard, but as I have a 92FS, and 92FS Compact L, the squared trigger guard obviously does not bother me. They are all excellent pistols.
 
I don't think it's been mentioned but it also has a chrome lined barrel...
Is it just the 92A1 with the chrome line barrel, or are other models also so equipped?

Shipwreck, thanks for posting the pictures. When I went looking for your description of the different models, I was sure there were pictures that went with them, but I couldn't find them in my quick search.
 
Unless it is a stainless steel barrel (Inox model) - the 92FS, M9A1, 92A1, 92 compact, Vertec, etc... They all have a chrome lined barrel. One of the common features for a Beretta 92 variant
 
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