Beretta 92FS Safety Manipulation

[1KPerDay]

No luck. I might pull the safety apart and polish the two plungers a bit to see if that helps

What exactly are you trying to fix? The 92FS safety is designed to stay down until you push forward/upward on the tab, rotating it up into the 'fire' position. It's not like some "decockers" that spring back up after you press them down to decock. Just in case that was your question.

 

[possum]

personally i would carry it with the safety "off" you still have that long da trigger to contend with and that should be safety and assurance for anyone!

 

[Lonestar49]

Doesn't work on the PX4. But why carry a SA/DA with a safety on? I have carried SIGS for years, and no safeties.

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True, but unlike the 92 FS slide mounted safety, one can convert the Px4's slide mounted safety into a G-model (decocker-only) very easily, by simply removing one tiny spring and ball bearing.

Then, like your Sigs, it will decock and pop-back-up on its own.


Ls

 

[JohnKSa]

What exactly are you trying to fix? The 92FS safety is designed to stay down until you push forward/upward on the tab, rotating it up into the 'fire' position. It's not like some "decockers" that spring back up after you press them down to decock. Just in case that was your question.

Every 92FS I've handled has enough of a spring to the lever that bumping it out of the detent at the safety position and moving it forward a little is enough to move the lever all the way to the fire position.

 

[Jenrick]

What JohnKSa said is what I'm trying to get to happen, by polishing up the two plungers. New springs too now that I think about it.

-Jenrick

 

[Jenrick]

Just as an update, a bit of light polishing and dropping the safety assembly in the ultrasonic took care of the problem. The safety now pops up like described, but stays on safe just fine.

-Jenrick

 

[9mmepiphany]

glad to hear it worked out...i must say this is a new one for me, mine is well over 10 years old and i've never had it "stick"

 

[REAPER4206969]

Excellent!

 

[SwampWolf]

So you're saying that if you start to push up on the safety that it won't spring up?

No it'll go up when I push up on it, I just have to push directly up on it, not any other direction

Hmmm...

I'm not sure what's at issue here. The Beretta safety/decocker is not "spring-loaded" like, say, the HK USP series of pistols are. The Beretta "system" is akin to designs like the Smith & Wesson semi-autos are. Up is fire, down is safe and the decocker does not "spring" the safety to fire when the pistol is decocked. That function requires a separate action on the part of the shooter.

Like some other posters have opined, my suggestion is to carry the pistol off safe and rely on the long, revolver-like double-action trigger pull to be your "safety". This mode of carry (on our issued Third Generation Smiths) was the one required by my le agency.

 

[Jenrick]

If you press forward, and slightly down on the back of the safety the safety will disengage and move to fire. This is a much faster and less awkward method then pushing it upward fully.

As far as carrying it on safe or not, it's a bit of a moot point as it's not a carry gun.

-Jenrick

 

[REAPER4206969]

The Beretta safety/decocker is not "spring-loaded" like, say

Yes it is. Once you move it past the detent it will spring up to the fire position.

 

[wrs840]

The S&W safety is much easier for me than the Beretta. I do have to shift my grip just a little on the Beretta. I do not have to change my grip on the S&W.

I agree. Third gen Smiths anyway, and I own three of them, and only one Beretta 92FS. I also can't get the "push it down just right and it will spring up" either on my 92FS, it's mid-90's vintage, old enough to have a steel spring-guide. Now when pushing "up", as soon as it clears the detent, the spring does the rest, like Reaper says... The 3rd gen Smiths don't do that... it's easier for my thumb to reach them to flick "off-safety" though.

Les

 

[jaysouth]

I have carried Smith autos for many decades now. The only time that I engage the safety is when the gun is stored outside a properly fitting holster.

For example, you need to go in the courthouse, take the gun out of your holster, engage the safety and put it under the seat of your auto, or you stuff it in your waistband for a quick trip somewhere. I like the having the ability to use the safety where I deem necessary. However, I do not use it for holstered carry.

However, If you were required to use it for holstered carry, you should be able to master the technique in about 5 evolutions.

 

[SwampWolf]

REAPER42066969: Read my post in its entirety and don't cherry-pick parts of posts out of context to support your position. When you depress the decocker on, say, an HK UPS, the decocking/safety lever springs up to the "fire/off safe" position, with no separate action taken on the part of the shooter. When the decocker is employed on the Beretta, it takes a separate movement of the thumb to get the lever in the "fire" position. I have both pistols and I just got through verifying what I already thought I knew. In terms of why we seem to be disagreeing on this pretty basic aspect of the "manual of arms" for the Beretta, I can only surmise that "what we have here is a lack of communication".

 

[JohnKSa]

SwampWolf,

Without being too contentious, there are H&K USP variants with standard decocking safeties (lever stays in the safe position when released) and Beretta 92 variants with decock-only levers (lever springs back to the fire position when released).

But that's really neither here nor there, the discussion on this thread was about how to disengage the safety on a 92FS--that's a gun with a standard decocking safety.

You are correct that in normal operation the lever stays in the down/safe position when released, however there is some spring-load in the lever. All the 92FS pistols I have handled have enough of a spring-load in the decock/safety lever that a good bump forward on the lever is enough to get it out of the detent for the "safe" position and enough to carry the lever all the way to the "fire" position.