Beretta Neos - trigger not resetting

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Could use some advice here. Bought a Beretta NEOS (6" bbl) for my daughter and I to shoot. Started out with a really stiff and rough trigger, but after 700 rounds, the trigger has really smoothed out nicely. But lately I'm having to pull against it two or three times to get it to reset. If I do that and it finally resets, it shoots fine. I took it apart and cleaned it, but still the same issue.

I'm wondering if the return spring is strong enough. Anyone have this issue, and if so, how did you resolve it?

Thanks.
 
 
Thanks for those links. Lots of good info in there. Going to try a few of those fixes before I send it back to Beretta. As the trigger has worn in, I am liking the gun more and more. Would be a darn shame if the problem persists.
 
Okay, after a good cleaning and long session at the range, I've finally identified the problem with the trigger not resetting. The transfer bar will only catch if the little cylinder that holds the firing pin and sear mechanism is tipped up. When it's tipped down, the transfer bar cannot catch the sear mechanism.

Once I figured it out, all I had to do was press on the bottom of this cylinder at the rear of the gun (within which the firing pin rides) and the trigger would reset. Every time.

So, the question is now what to do about it. I'm studying this carefully to figure out what needs to be fixed. At first I thought the transfer bar needed to be bent upward, but there is plenty of upward force applied by the spring, so that's not the problem. The lip on the sear mechanism is just too far away for the transfer bar to catch it unless the cylinder it rides in is tipped up.

I may try removing the sear mechanism and filing a little material away from the spot where the transfer bar catches it so it can reach every time.

Interesting little issue. Reading all those links above, some of them are way, way off as to what the problem really is. Makes me wonder if they really looked closely at what was going on.
 
Whew! Thank goodness I took a close look at the issue again tonight. I cycled the firing pin and trigger (barrel and slide removed) over and over and studied it until my eyes went dry. Then I thought "surely this cylinder that holds the sear and firing pin isn't meant to teeter like this, and I was right. There is a 2mm allen screw inside the cylinder that holds it to the frame, and it was loose.

All I had to do was tighten that screw, and it was back to normal. Whew! Difficult diagnosis (for me) but thankfully a very easy fix.

Anyone else with a Beretta Neos who has trouble with the trigger resetting, be sure to check the tightness of the screw that holds the metal cylinder (barrel) to the frame - the one the firing pin slides through.
 
I don't know which part it is either.

But it sounds like degreasing the threads, and a little Blue Lock-Tight might be the next order of business.

rc
 
It's the screw # 21 that holds down the cylinder shaped receiver for the firing pin (part #22). It was loose, so the cylinder was tipping down and that was enough to change the distance from the transfer bar to the sear mechanism so it wouldn't engage.

I agree that degreasing those threads and a little blue loctite should do the trick. I'm very glad it was such a simple fix, and now if it starts to happen again, I'll know exactly where to look.

On the down side, that little bit of play in the cylinder that held the firing pin made the trigger pretty light and smooth. LOL. I was thinking I was wearing that trigger in, but when I tightened that screw, I lost most of the ground I thought I'd gained on that trigger. So I think stoning those parts may be in order now, although it has improved since it was new.
 
Ran through about 50 rounds today with the Neos - and not a single hiccup. That gun is shooting better than ever. A fellow at the range wanted to shoot it and he and I never missed the 5" tumbler at 25-30 yards in two full magazines. Talk about fun!
 
Just FYI - what you experienced is exactly what the Neos safety recall was about. The screw holding the firing pin housing/sear gets loose and the housing can move. The sear spring then can't provide proper tension. A hard bump or drop can then potentially allow the sear to move enough to release the firing pin. If the housing is in just the right position, simply engaging the safety can also release the firing pin. Beretta's solution was to replace the screw with a new type, use Loctite, and install a new generation firing pin.

If you look at the Brownells' schematic and look up the screw, it shows a perfect profile of the old style fastener. It's one of the strangest things I've ever seen. The slot in the screw head is extra, extra, extra wide and makes it weak. Tightening it too much will break the head. Using Loctite on it pretty much guarantees it will break when trying to remove the screw. It can't be torqued down enough to keep it tight and can't have Loctite applied, the inevitable result is the screw loosening. Newer style screws have a hex drive to eliminate the weakness.

The newest generation of firing pin has a vastly larger sear engagement surface to be safer in case the housing gets loose anyway. It has the unfortunate effect of making the trigger pull much worse than the original series of pistols.

Since your Neos has the new type of screw it means it has already been through the recall process or it is post-recall production. So the fact that the housing still came loose is a little disconcerting, especially given the low round count.
 
Good info. I'm going to blue loc-tite it and hope it stays put. Good thing is that if it ever starts acting up again, I'll know exactly what the problem is, and it's a very simple fix.

I may work on the trigger a "little" bit more (stoning the surfaces) but honestly it's not that bad after about 1K rounds through it. It's become one of my favorite guns at the range now. I shoot it while I'm letting my rifle barrels cool down and it's very good for that. Yesterday, I was hitting a 6" tumbler pretty consistently at 100 yards with just a 5 MOA Center Point red dot on it. Incidentally, that $30 red dot is a very nice fit for this gun. Mounted a little forward of center, it really tames muzzle jump and makes it easy to stay right on target.
 
Just an update on this "fix" -

I've since fired probably 1000 rounds with zero issues since tightening that one screw.

In addition, the trigger is smoothing out real nice. It's a tack driver now. With my red/green dot scope, I can routinely make shotgun shells jump at 20-30 yards. Fun stuff. Great little gun.
 
I worked on a gun for a customer where this was happening. I'm glad that your problem was solved that easily, because it was not the case for the gun I was working on. On this piece, the sear and trigger bar had rounded themselves off, among a few other things going wrong. Part of the problem was that Beretta didn't harden any of those parts. I hope that the same doesn't happen to your gun.
 
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