Berry's 124gr Hybrid Hollow Point

[hAkron]

Who has good BE-86 or Unique data for the Berry's 9mm 124 gr Hybrid Hollow Point (similar to Speer GDHP)? Looking for something similar to a self defense equivalent load.

I would consider other powders as well, but these two stand out from what I've read to far as good candidates.

 

[kcofohio]

I haven't used either of your listed powders. But I did loads with Silhouette, HS-6, Longshot, and CFE Pistol. Out of these powders, HS-6 was the one that I felt was able to get at the recommended velocity without going into +P.

This load may vary for other barrels.

With the Berry's HHP 124 gr. bullet, I worked up to 6.8 gr., but backed down to 6.7 gr. I seated them at 1.040", I have 1 finicky barrel. Most people, I believe are seating at 1.060", IIRC.

Remember, be safe, YMMV!

 

[hAkron]

According to Berry's site, they recommend.
COL = 1.060"
Recommended velocity = 1100 fps

Alliant's website BE-86 for a generic 124gr JHP that the tested COL is 1.12"

I will have to start a bit below Alliant's 5.7 recommendation given the much shorter COL.

 

[kcofohio]

Not to split hairs, but my box, Lot #091515570P11 (I assume they were produced Aug. 15, 2015), shows Muzzle Velocity. 1125 fps. I hadn't seen that on their site. I bought mine at Powder Valley way before Berry's listed them. I see now they lowered it a bit.

The reason I'm curious, some people were getting results of the bullet coming apart in certain media. Plus, in my search, it seems only a handful of powders will get the 124 gr. above 1125 fps within standard pressures.

 

[hAkron]

I just received mine about a week ago. I would t think there is a ton of functional difference between 1100fps and 1125fps

Also, that info was from their website. I haven't checked the box for any info.

 

[Artofgolf]

...The reason I'm curious, some people were getting results of the bullet coming apart in certain media...

Yep. Snuffy tested some of the Berry's HHP into the ballistic wax media last November.
Don't know if you saw the results hAkron ~ here's the link: http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=10070124&postcount=83

Hope this helps....

 

[Dudedog]

Off thread but Snuffy also did a test of the RMR 125gr HPs (not the target ones there are two now) These are the ones designed to expand.

They are $61 for 500 and RMR offers THR memners a 5% discount with the code.
They seemed to work better in Snuffys test. (tahnks for testing them for them for me/everybody, Snuffy, I appreciate it)

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=793096

In my tests in 9mm BE86 seemed to run a little hot. If I was you I would start at 4.7 maybe 5grs.

Not the same bullet but some numbers from my tests
RMR 124gr HP 4.8gr CFE Pistol (Hodgdon MAX is 5.1gr)
1049.00
1063.00
1062.00
1079.00
1055.00

Average 1061.60
ES 30.00
SD 11.26
PF 131.64


RMR 124gr FN BE86 4.7gr 1.08 OAL
1060.00
1056.00
1059.00
1065.00
1055.00

Average 1059.00
ES 10.00
SD 3.94
PF 131.32

Can't find where I put the data right at the moment but as I recall 5gr of BE86 with the 124 FN was close to 1100fps in my 5" 1911 9mm.

 

[hAkron]

Off thread but Snuffy also did a test of the RMR 125gr HPs (not the target ones there are two now) These are the ones designed to expand.

They are $61 for 500 and RMR offers THR memners a 5% discount with the code.
They seemed to work better in Snuffys test. (tahnks for testing them for them for me/everybody, Snuffy, I appreciate it)

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=793096

In my tests in 9mm BE86 seemed to run a little hot. If I was you I would start at 4.7 maybe 5grs.

Not the same bullet but some numbers from my tests
RMR 124gr HP 4.8gr CFE Pistol (Hodgdon MAX is 5.1gr)
1049.00
1063.00
1062.00
1079.00
1055.00

Average 1061.60
ES 30.00
SD 11.26
PF 131.64


RMR 124gr FN BE86 4.7gr 1.08 OAL
1060.00
1056.00
1059.00
1065.00
1055.00

Average 1059.00
ES 10.00
SD 3.94
PF 131.32

Can't find where I put the data right at the moment but as I recall 5gr of BE86 with the 124 FN was close to 1100fps in my 5" 1911 9mm.

This is prefect. I was looking for a range of charges to work with. I'll load up a few and see what shoots well for me.