Best games out right now that involve guns...

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Recent releases that are great:

Raven Shield (www.ubi.com)

Counter terrorism game - over 60 weapons in the game very
accurately modeled w/proper ballastics for the most part.
No health meters and what not. Get shot in the leg, you drag
the leg. Head popper - good night. Graphics are amazing and
online play is great as well... but so is the single player.

Vietcong (www.vietcong-game.com)

Absolutely the best vietnam war game to date. The weapon
sounds are absolutely perfect and the enviroment is great.
Single player has a good story line, including VC tunnels to flush out. Multiplayer is good too.

Delta Force : BlackHawk Down (www.redstorm.com)

A little on the arcadey side, but great fun. Complete with about
30 missions, skinnies included. They really captured the movie well
in the games enviroment and execution. Multiplayer as well.

-d
 
Operation Flashpoint Game of the Year. It has the Soviet Campaign and the Resistance campaign. Great game, very realistic gun action.

Codemasters

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Police Quest SWAT 3. Simply the best mix of graphics, modability, firearm ballistics and the most complex control of AI team players in a most easy and intuitive way. My only complaint is I like to see the model of the firearm and they don't do this.

Ghost Recon. I just picked up the gold package on a whim. I really tend not to like the Rainbow Six series too much because I feel control of your team mates is much too limited and rigid. You plan and go and can't really change from there. No telling Joe blow to grenade a room etc.

Ghost Recon however uses an on the fly waypoint system and the ability to switch to whomever you wish and I think it works pretty well. It's a far cry from the SWAT 3 interface but it works. The graphics are beautiful and the sound is very well done. Again, my only real complaint is the lack of visible weapon models.

Operation Flashpoint. Very good game. Not a FPS but truely a military simulation. I have yet to finish this because it gets pretty complicated and is difficult. I really don't like some of the vehicle contol routines and really wasn't a big fan of that aspect with the exception of the simple vehicles such as trucks, jeeps, gunners in tanks etc. When you get to jets, helos etc. I don't think they should have been controllable because they had to simplify too much and took away from the game.

Medal of Honor Allied Assault. Realistic.....no. Fun? Absolutely. The normandy beach level is just like playing Saving Private Ryan. Very fun game. Good sound. The weapons look good and "feel" beefy. How can you not like a game with that wonderful "PING" of the Garand.

I have played around with the Ravenshield demo and the graphics are good and the weapn models are not too bad. Sound is good and the flashbang effect is great. I still have hangups with the AI control though. Not sure if I will buy this one.

Of course then there is Postal 2........if you have to ask:D

The Soldier of Fortune series, 1 and 2 are good for some light fun. The damage modeling is so over the top that it is kind of like gruesome fun.

I really want to try Vietcong.

No One Lives Forever 1 and 2. These are some of the best games ever. Campy, witty, fun weapons, gadgets. It is James Bond meets Austin Powers with boobs. Not the most realistic firearm sim but a real hoot to play.
 
The Day of Defeat mod for Half-Life. It make MOH:AA look amateurish at least in terms of weaponry. DoD is much more realistic in that department.
 
Medal Of Honor Frontline for the PS2 is my favorite. Conflict Dessert Storm (also PS2) was alot of fun, as you could work as a team.

good question.
 
Operation Flashpoint, Ghost Recon, MOH, NOLF II, SOF II...

Indeed, all great games for shooters who like to play games.

But you guys are forgetting the Mac Daddy of realistic shooters.

Rainbow Six, but more importantly it's sequal - ROGUE SPEAR. I throw that out for the simple reasons of:
1. Longevity, it's been around almost as long as Counter Strike, but is far more realistic than Counter Strike (BTW, I dislike C.S.)
2. There have been a plethora of Weapon Packs that you can download to give you dang near every weapon that you could ever want. 2 of the best are the Sputnik Satilite mod and the beloved NATO 3 mod.
3. It introduced something no other FPS included before... Patience. If you just run out there like a Counter Strike player - you are so toast.

What other game lets you roll on a mission with a Marlin 1894SG and a Colt Python?

Oh, speaking of Campy Fun: Lucas Arts "OUTLAWS" has got to be the funnest. If you haven't played Outlaws, you gotta try it. You can get it for 5 to 10 bucks these days at most software shops. It's a cartoonish western theme that rolls all the Spaghetti Westerns all into one game. Loads of fun. No realism at all, but fun. You throw dynamite, fan your six shooter, and can even get rude with a 10 gauge double. SASS guys should all own this title.
 
Rogue Spear is the grandaddy, no doubt. But America's Army has a vastly improved engine with far better modeling, movement, weapons handling, audio (fantastic audio in this game) and physics. Light-years ahead of anything else I've tried...granted I haven't tried much. I pretty much went from Rogue Spear to Flashpoint to AA.

AA rewards the patient as well, and the designers seem to think that is a key point - so new changes always look towards discouraging CS-like activity and encouraging teamwork and thought.

- Gabe
 
But AA requires the use of central servers that have been less than impressive in terms of stability and speed.

If there was a LAN version and better yet, a Single Player version - then you might be right. The balistics are impressive as is the rest. But I don't want to have to burn my bandwidth just to get a little gunning going on.
 
i read a couple reviews of Vietcong that were less than flattering. i forget all the details but they mentioned the AI was almost too intelligent, maps had tons of glitches, aiming of weapons was atrocious, that kind of thing.

but the producers of MOH are working on their own Vietnam game, I'll wait for that to come out.


BlackHawk Down is okay, the AI in single player missions is really weak. skinnys run right by you without shooting, they have no snipers that i've come across, but it might accurately depict the resistance that Delta Force and the Rangers faced in Mogadishu, who knows?

I'm still hooked on MOH multiplayer. theres some new maps that have nighttime fighting, and excellent use of muzzle flashes to locate the enemy. look for a server called "Alous Beach Blast", or anything with Alou in the title. their website is www.mohcommand.com to download the maps.
 
For pure multiplayer mayhem, Counter-Strike is hard to beat. Look soon for the next patch which will add a Riot Shield(!), the Galil, and the FAMAS...that's the rumor anyway.

If you don't mind the cheesyness then Soldier of Fortune 2 is pretty good. The AI is downright evil on that one. bump up the difficulty and you'll be fighting shotgun toting, grenade tossing, mofos that duck, roll, and shoot.
 
The server-based issues in AA are abysmal. It's a major negative for sure. But even with that, I think it's still a far more advanced experience than anything else. If LAN/single-player was available, it would be that much more obvious. But that ain't gonna happen.

- Gabe
 
Counter Strike
Battlefield 1942

Thousands of hours of my life spent in these games. Now I'm burned out on them.
 
For the PS2 console,

Grand Theft Auto:Vice City, has a wide selection of weapons including Pythons, MAC-10s, UZIs, MP5s, Mini-14s etc. Good voice talent with Ray Liotta, Burt Renyolds, Gary Busey, fairly realistic, but very very fun. (Made a mistake with the 1911 having 17 rounds though, the game takes place during the 80s, but they didn't get the Glock for some reason :confused: )

Metal Gear Solid 2, Beretta M9 (silenced tranquiler dart though) H&K USP .40, H&K SOCOM, AK-74, M-16 etc. Fairly realistic except for the story.

You should go out and shoot, but when you are out of ammo, or broke it makes a good substitute :)
 
Best right now is actually in the arcade. Police 911. Includes light gun and motion sensors so that the virtual character on screen representing you moves with your actual movements under the sensors (e.g. ducking behind cover, peeking out, etc...). It's also a great workout.
 
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