coloradokevin
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Vern Humphrey said:Is it taking it personally to point out that no one on this thread said they "believe that (all else being equal) a 40mm objective lens can "collect", "gather", or otherwise "find" more light than a 56mm lens?"
Vern Humphrey said:But no one involved in this discussion has made such a claim. Please do not accuse us of saying things we did not say.
Dude, seriously, are you even reading my posts? Are you just looking to argue with me here? I've repeatedly explained where these kinds of statements came from, and didn't accuse you (or anyone else in this thread) of saying such a thing. I also explained why I went into the "light gathering" debate in the first place, based on the OP's opening post, and questions.
It is my belief that this was a commonly held misconception, based on conversations I've had with numerous shooters in the past (not necessarily shooters in this thread). Anyway, since the OP specifically asked for the scopes that "gather light the best", I felt it was important to explain what that doesn't mean, along with what is actually important.
What is the issue you're trying to argue with me at this point? Perhaps we should continue this debate over PM's if you still feel that this is unresolved... There's no sense in derailing an otherwise useful thread simply because you don't understand that I'm not referring to you, or your posts in this thread.
Anyway, one final thought for the OP:
Generally you get what you pay for with optics!
I have a real cheap fixed power 3x40mm scope laying around here that you can barely see through in the dark. I also have a 3-10x40mm Weaver Grand Slam Tactical (circa $300) that really does pretty well in lower light conditions. Then I have a S&B PMII 3-20x50mm scope (ten times the cost of the Weaver), and I find that it's pretty darn excellent in low light conditions.
You usually have a "need" for a scope like a S&B before you buy one, and I have to admit that for the purposes of a hunting rifle in low light, my Weaver stacks up fairly well against the FAR more expensive scope (the Weaver is on my hunting rifle). The S&B definitely has better glass, better coatings, and a larger objective. But, 20x magnification doesn't do as well in low light as 10x magnification. So, while the S&B is still superior, I'm actually really pretty impressed with how the Weaver compares for the price point (in fact, I just did another hasty comparison out a window using both scopes set to ten power).