Best multi-purpose 9MM pistol?

Which multi-purpose 9MM?

  • Glock 17

    Votes: 65 48.9%

  • Sig P226

    Votes: 37 27.8%

  • Beretta 92

    Votes: 31 23.3%
  • Total voters
    133
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So of the three pistols listed which is the best all purpose model?

I want a gun that will work for training classes, gun games, and carry.

Which one do you think is best for all of these roles and why?
 
Beretta 92. Most reliable (IMO) because of the open top slide design. Also it was designed so that it could be loaded direct to the chamber, making it at least a one shot gun if the mag (s) you have fails.

Nicer gun overall than the Glock and has a longer barrel than the Sig. I really don't think anybody should "start out" with a Glock with its goofy trigger, terrible ergonomics (IMO), and lack of manual safety.

If you decide to go with a Beretta though, on new models look out for plastic parts.
 
IMO the best isn't on the list: the Glock 19. I see little use for the full-size Glocks, or any full-sized 9mm for that matter (unless it's a Browning Hi-Power!).
 
I voted Glock 17, though my favorite 9mm is the Sig P226.

Reasons:
Training - toss up between all three.
Gun Games - I'm not a gamer, but I do pose with my G35.
Carry - I don't carry, but when I'm within the confines of my very own home, it's easier to jab a Glock down my belt than the others.

Jim
 
I was shooting my Browning HP the other day and I just don't get it BOTH the 92 & the 17 are better in most ways, from feeding (little bitty port tends to hold shells in breech) , to loading magazine (do I need a hydraulic press to get in the 13th round?) accuracy, not quit as good from the 3 stock guns tested, Glock 17 being significantly better grouper.. The Glock 17 never seems to fail,at least my 1989 version (and I'm not a big plastic pistol fan) . All around I think the Glock 17 wins, I'm biased I just don't like Sigs(except 210s).Berretas are ok for a generic crunchenticker. :cool:
 
Ack! You put the block, err... glock up there! (Heh, I'm suppose to say that, I'm a 1911 guy :neener: )


Just' kiddin' of course, the glock is a good gun, but I shot them side by side when I was deciding a 9mm and the Sig 226 (to me) felt a bunch better. More respnsive trigger, didn't feel like shooting a brick, and looks better too ;)

Sig. P226
 
While none of your options would be my first choice, out of what you listed I'd have to go with the Beretta, but mainly because it is the only one on your list that I forsee myself buying in the next year or two.

SIGs, well, I go through phases. Sometimes I like them, other times, well to be polite I'll just say they don't do it for me.

Glock. I really have been trying for some time now to like them, but I can't. I hate the trigger and they just don't impress me generally. Sure, they have a reputation for reliability, but most decent autos do now. I probably will get one eventually, but it will be a more compact model. I really don't see the point of the 17. The 19 is smaller so it is more concealable and thus more suitable for a CCW gun, yet it is big enough for range use.

Berettas, they are reliable, they are modern classics (so are SIGs, I can't see anyone calling a Glock a classic with a straight face), they are beautiful, well made, etc. etc.

Now if you had an open field, one 9mm for every use a 9mm may be needed for (carry, training, games), I think a mid sized 9mm is the way to go. It is a little smaller for carry yet big enough for comfortable range use.

My main choices (in no paticular order):
-BHP, sure it is technically a full size, but they are quite compact and thin. IWB they should be fine.
-CZ 75 Compact, or better, the alloy P01/PCR
-SIG 239
-Beretta 92 Compact
-Kahr T9 (the new, bigger Kahr)
-Kahr P9 (one of the few small guns that is truely comfortable and accurate enough for a main range gun)
-S&W 908 (value series), 910 (value series), or 39**
-Taurus PT911
-if you must consider a Glock, the Glock 19
 
While none of your options would be my first choice, out of what you listed I'd have to go with the Beretta, but mainly because it is the only one on your list that I forsee myself buying in the next year or two.

SIGs, well, I go through phases. Sometimes I like them, other times, well to be polite I'll just say they don't do it for me.

Glock. I really have been trying for some time now to like them, but I can't. I hate the trigger and they just don't impress me generally. Sure, they have a reputation for reliability, but most decent autos do now. I probably will get one eventually, but it will be a more compact model. I really don't see the point of the 17. The 19 is smaller so it is more concealable and thus more suitable for a CCW gun, yet it is big enough for range use.

Berettas, they are reliable, they are modern classics (so are SIGs, I can't see anyone calling a Glock a classic with a straight face), they are beautiful, well made, etc. etc.

Now if you had an open field, one 9mm for every use a 9mm may be needed for (carry, training, games), I think a mid sized 9mm is the way to go. It is a little smaller for carry yet big enough for comfortable range use.

My main choices (in no paticular order):
-BHP, sure it is technically a full size, but they are quite compact and thin. IWB they should be fine.
-CZ 75 Compact or better the alloy P01/PCR
-SIG 239
-Beretta 92 Compact
-Kahr T9 (the new, bigger Kahr)
-Kahr P9 (one of the few small guns that is truely comfortable and accurate enough for a main range gun)
-S&W 908 (value series), 910 (value series), or 39**
-Taurus PT911
-if you must consider a Glock, the Glock 19
 
I was shooting my Browning HP the other day and I just don't get it BOTH the 92 & the 17 are better in most ways, from feeding (little bitty port tends to hold shells in breech) , to loading magazine (do I need a hydraulic press to get in the 13th round?)
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Your HP is jamming? That's a new one on me. I refer to HP's as the autoloading revolver. Of all the HP owners on this board you almost never hear of that.

I don't see why you're having a problem loading the 13th round, in HP magazines you can almost fit a 14th round in there. It's very easy for me. They are very similiar to Beretta mags and the Beretta mags were actually designed based on HP mags.
 
IMO the best isn't on the list: the Glock 19. I see little use for the full-size Glocks, or any full-sized 9mm for that matter (unless it's a Browning Hi-Power!).
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OH no..you left out the best of them all...the mighty BROWNING HP!!!!!
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OK, these two comments tell me I have left out some important details. There is a method to my madness.

I have decided to make all my purchases for the coming year ammo and training. All the other guns are going to stay in the safe so I can focus on improving.

I am an experienced 1911 shooter. So why the 9MM then? Easy. I can shoot twice as much, and I have never bought into the whole 9 vs. 45 thing.

Why these three guns?

They have good reputations and should hold up to 10K+ rounds in a year.
They are legal for SSP and Production divisions, giving me the most opportunities to compete in my area.
They are popular enough that you can get parts/repairs anywhere.
They have compact counterparts (G19, P228, 92Compact) that could be adopted later on, but are still concealable now with good holster.

I love the BHP and the G19 too, and they are an option for later. But aren't the right tool for the job right now IMO.

Does this help?
 
I was shooting my Browning HP the other day and I just don't get it BOTH the 92 & the 17 are better in most ways,
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Hmmm . . . I have both a BHP and a G17 . . . sights, pointability, trigger, comfort and concealaibity (in IWB holster), accuracy, and reliability (no "limp wrist syndrome") are all better in the BHP than the Glock. Which "most ways" are you referring to? :confused:
 
I voted for the 229, although I think you left out the CZ75, and your arguements about compact counterparts include the PCR/P-01 for CZ, I really think your missing a great gun!

Jim
 
OK, for those of you that insist the Cee-Zed should be a write in candidate, does it fit these two criteria I specified?

They are legal for SSP and Production divisions, giving me the most opportunities to compete in my area.
They are popular enough that you can get parts/repairs anywhere.
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Ok , my HP was made in 73, and if you can those sights good I guess you have Novaks. I don't 'point' a pistol I AIM a pistol with concentration on the front sight. Yeah I know my old hp wasn't designed for hp amm ya di dah. The gun is slim and would conceal better than a Glock or 92 I'll concede that. The trigger is on a par with my Glock 17, and the Glock isn't really single action. My mag doesn't drop free, I guess I can easily remedy that, but then I'd have to get a Wolfe Trigger spring so trigger does.nt swing in the breeze. And what is this BS about 'polishing front of magazine'??If we go modifying triggers then we can put in a 3.5# connector in the glock 17. I think Glock 17's are better than any other glocks and I have rental ranges to back up my belief. The HP has a trigger reset I can feel when it fires and I find it disconcerting for me. Certainly the HP is PRETTY, but to me so is a 1900Browning! If I went to war with a 9mm(shudder) on my hip make it a Glock 17.:neener:
 
They are legal for SSP and Production divisions, giving me the most opportunities to compete in my area.
They are popular enough that you can get parts/repairs anywhere.
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The CZ-75B is actually a pretty good choice based on those critera. CZ USA provides excellent support, and the design is popular worldwide.

The CZ-75B is legal for both SSP (hammer down DA first shot) and ESP (cocked & locked SA first shot) in IDPA, and Production class in USPSA (hammer down DA first shot).

http://www.idpa.com/rulebook5-2-01/Rulebook.pdf

http://www.uspsa.org/rules/Rules14_2001.pdf
 
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