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Best platform for 221 fireball rifle?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by adcoch1, Nov 9, 2018.

  1. adcoch1

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    Been thinking a lot for the last few years about a 221 fireball rifle, something light and easy to carry for a stalking varmint gun and a general plinking rifle. The question is, what platform? A contender carbine comes to mind, and Remington made one on a 700 you can still find. CZ made one on the 527 action, although these are rather rare, and i have seen a few xp 100s converted to rifles.

    Anyway, what would be the best platform for a 221 fireball as a ligh rifle? Anything I'm not aware of out there?
     
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    That is my first pick but the like new one on gb is $1500. A little excessive for a rifle that was $600 new... I may contact cz custom shop and see what it would cost to put one together...
     
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  4. troy fairweather

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    if u can find a action and rebarrel it. Richards micro fists makes nice stocks for the 527 im walnut maple or a laminate. there were some zastava minis made in 221.. there are still some 222 rem cz fs carbines out there for 6 ish i would like to get one before there gone. only if cz made the fs in 6.5 grendel.
     
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  5. stringnut

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    Check out E R Shaw. They build rifles on Savage actions. I think they chamber for the fireball. Haven't looked at their site in a while. My 250 Savage they built is pretty nice for the monet.
     
  6. someguy2800

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    I would either get a contender carbine or I would get a 223 bolt rifle and rebarrel it.
     
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  7. eastbank

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    I have a Remington classic 700 SA in 221 FB and its a tack driver, easy to reload and easy on powder.
     
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    I think the fireball is best served in a mini, or break action. I'd probably go with the Howa and have it rebarreled, but that's personal preference.
     
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  9. Offfhand

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    The handgun the .221 was designed for is hard to beat. This one, with the 12X Redfield converter to LER, is wicked ju-ju in the prairie dog patch. DSC_0076.JPG
     
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  10. cheygriz

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    Sako Vixen. Rebarrel, or have the rear of a 222 or 223 barrel cut back and rechambered.
     
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    I forgot about the vixen... That would be sweet rebarreled... Hmmmm.
     
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  12. Jim Watson

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    Yes, and it would be nearly as good as a .222.
     
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    The 222 is quite the sweet shooter and I'd love to have one, but the reason for wanting the fireball is for that spot between the 222 and 223, and a 22lr. A 22 hornet or k hornet would work too, but the fireball just grabs my attention and looks like perfection for velocity vs powder use.
     
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  14. LoonWulf

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    I kinda wish savage had put out is 25 classic in .221FB.....I always wanted to try both
     
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    If you do get a contender also consider the 218 bee, or 218 mashburn bee
     
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    I had a bee for about a year and never could find ammo or brass. Traded it away and the very next week found ammo, brass, and dies available. Should have held out another week I guess, this was ten years or so ago...
     
  17. Jim Watson

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    A friend was disappointed in a Ruger No 2 K Hornet.
    Rechambering to .223 improved accuracy (with light enough bullets) appreciably.
    Fireball is milder and better for that niche.
     
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    I have a Remington 700 and a T/C Contender with a 22" Bullberry barrel, both chambered in 221 Remington FB. The Contender is handier than the Remington due to the action difference and a bit shorter barrel but both shoot well.

    I generally load 40 to 50 grain bullets.

    It has always been easier to get my Contender to shoot about any bullet well. The Remington 700 got better after I replaced the trigger and free floated the barrel.

    About 10 years ago, it looked like 221 cases were going to become hard to find so I bought a set of forming dies for the case. So, at least I am set if cases disappear from the market.

    A bolt action shorter than a 223 Remington length bolt action would make a dandy 221 Remington FB rifle.
     
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    Offfhand, that is maximum sexy!

    "Richards micro fists":
    tiny hands.jpg
    :D :D :D
     
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  20. Offfhand

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    I'm in full agreement with Mr. cheygriz about the Sako Vixen action being ideal for building a .221 FB. Though I would be reluctant to convert a good one in .222, I picked up this vintage Marlin 322, (Which were built on the sweet little Sako actions back in the '50's) at a gun show. The .222 barrel was pitted so I had it rebarreled to .17 FB. Which was a perfect fit, as would be the same in .221 FB. DSC_0090.JPG DSC_0086.JPG
     
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    I've got a contender carbine chambered in 22 Hornet with a 2 x 7 x 32 scope on it. Great carrying around rifle. Short and light. Very accurate also. Being a single shot with no magazine to restrict overall cartridge length allows me to load to .002 off the lands. Also squeeze in more powder. She'll routinely put 5 rounds into 3/4" at 100 yards.
    I'd be hard pressed to pick a bolt action over this platform 20180822_170949.jpg
     
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  22. adcoch1

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    That's a good looking setup...
     
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    I have to agree on the Contender Carbine. I had a Bullberry in 223. Great gun. Plus no gunsmith fees
    Also adding a caliber is cheap. Just buy a new barrel

    IronHand
     
  24. adcoch1

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    What about barrel twist? To afford one looks like i will have to build one. I want to shoot between 36 and 55 grn bullets...
     
  25. LoonWulf

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    fireball is slowish I'd probably go 1-9
     
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