TigerBight
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I use Bubba Gumps southern fried reload data.
Best reloading manuals?
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slowbutsure
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I agree and do conform with most of what I have read in the prior posts. But, I must ask the question: Why is it that a bullet made by two different makers, (with all dimensions the same, and SD's/BC's the same) cannot be loaded using say Hornady info vs. Speer, vs. etc.?? sbs
Clark
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Best for what?
Speer 12 does not even make good toilet paper.
Speer 12 does not even make good toilet paper.
stikshooter
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If I had to have ONE load book, it would have to be Pet Loads by Ken Waters. It is my go to first book when working up a new load.
Strykervet
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Some books, although good, have misprints that they will stand behind even if you call them (Speer 13, 10mm load data, 3N37, says to load the same charge of powder under two different bullet weights, a charge Viht says is a full 2 grains over max). While the data may be safe, it is erroneous, because either one load is over the maximum, or the other load is way under what a max load should be. That said, I like the Speer manual I got with my kit, but just about any manual should have similar information as far as how to is concerned, at least from what I've seen. I like using the manual that goes with the equipment I am using, and I get my load data elsewhere.
Getting the correct information from the specific bullet makers and/or powder makers you use is more important than any book when it comes to the actual loads. That is why I like Load Books: they have data from several manuals and several manufacturers, both bullets and powder, for one specific round. Hornady, Speer, Nosler, Viht, Hodgdon, etc. My 10mm/.40 book (a two fer one!) for example, has 2667 loads using 68 different bullet designs/weights and 50 different powders. All for about $5 from Midway, just get the calibres you load.
Getting the correct information from the specific bullet makers and/or powder makers you use is more important than any book when it comes to the actual loads. That is why I like Load Books: they have data from several manuals and several manufacturers, both bullets and powder, for one specific round. Hornady, Speer, Nosler, Viht, Hodgdon, etc. My 10mm/.40 book (a two fer one!) for example, has 2667 loads using 68 different bullet designs/weights and 50 different powders. All for about $5 from Midway, just get the calibres you load.
Kevin Rohrer
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Lyman #49 is the current edition and the best to start out on.
It's also a good idea to have the manual that corresponds to the bullets you are loading (e.g. if using Hornady bullets, also get their manual).
It's also a good idea to have the manual that corresponds to the bullets you are loading (e.g. if using Hornady bullets, also get their manual).
Clark
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CAUTION: The following post includes loading data beyond currently published maximums for this cartridge. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Neither the writer, The High Road, nor the staff of THR assume any liability for any damage or injury resulting from use of this information.
"Sierra 50th Anniversary Handgun Reloading Manual" 1995 page 161 ..the Vz52 is an extemely strong pistol. Reloads developed for pistols using less robust locking systems must be reduced drasticaly for safety reasons. In recoil operated pistols, such as the Tokarev, starting loads should be considered a maximum
I wrote Sierra an email and let them know that in 2000 I blew up a two CZ52 pistols and could not hurt Tokarevs with those loads plus a lot more.
Sierra wrote back ~ "We were just printing what WE read."
"Speer 12" 1994:
"Some bolt-action and single-shot rifles have been chambered for this cartridge. Reloaders can sue spritzer-type bullets in these rifles, but should keep the weight to 150 grains or less. Heavier spritzer bullets cannot be drive fast enough in the 30-30 to expand reliably. We are occasionally asked if the 30-30 can be loaded to higher velocities in a modern bolt action like the Remington model 788. The answer is NO! The 30-30 case is an old design with relatively thin walls. Attempting to load "hotter" would risk a dangerous case failure."
The brass looked a lot stronger to me than 270 brass.
The Win94 does not look strong.
So with a $130 Savage 219L break action single shot with chamber walls .36" thick and equally strong breech face, I have worked up to 83 kpsi using mixed brass; WW, Win, RP, and FC.
38 gr W748, 220 gr HNDY RN, 2.92"
I have not started telling Speer what is wrong with "Speer 12", my first load book, that I wasted time and effort reading and trying to understand.
"Sierra 50th Anniversary Handgun Reloading Manual" 1995 page 161 ..the Vz52 is an extemely strong pistol. Reloads developed for pistols using less robust locking systems must be reduced drasticaly for safety reasons. In recoil operated pistols, such as the Tokarev, starting loads should be considered a maximum
I wrote Sierra an email and let them know that in 2000 I blew up a two CZ52 pistols and could not hurt Tokarevs with those loads plus a lot more.
Sierra wrote back ~ "We were just printing what WE read."
"Speer 12" 1994:
"Some bolt-action and single-shot rifles have been chambered for this cartridge. Reloaders can sue spritzer-type bullets in these rifles, but should keep the weight to 150 grains or less. Heavier spritzer bullets cannot be drive fast enough in the 30-30 to expand reliably. We are occasionally asked if the 30-30 can be loaded to higher velocities in a modern bolt action like the Remington model 788. The answer is NO! The 30-30 case is an old design with relatively thin walls. Attempting to load "hotter" would risk a dangerous case failure."
The brass looked a lot stronger to me than 270 brass.
The Win94 does not look strong.
So with a $130 Savage 219L break action single shot with chamber walls .36" thick and equally strong breech face, I have worked up to 83 kpsi using mixed brass; WW, Win, RP, and FC.
38 gr W748, 220 gr HNDY RN, 2.92"
I have not started telling Speer what is wrong with "Speer 12", my first load book, that I wasted time and effort reading and trying to understand.
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