Best rifle for a beginner?

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Jesus folks....:uhoh: I guess I'll have to seriously check out the CZ....or maybe pick this gun up and get one of each recommended in this thread...:D Thanks for all the helpful advice. Does the CZ make a gun for smaller people -- remember I'm only 5'2" 114lbs and the Remington 870 in the 26 and 22 inch was a lot to hold up.:eek:
 
Tried the link but it's a no go. Anyone got another link for this gun so I can get a clear picture?
 
I suggest buying Jack O'Connor's "Complete Book of Rifles and Shotguns" to learn the basics.

If you ever plan to shoot competitive highpower, I'd suggest starting with the CZ .22, getting a good sling and then moving up to an AR, but a good AR can cost up to $1000+ to be competitive.

If you are just looking to learn to shoot, plink and have something for defense, ditto on the CZ .22, but save your $$ and get a Yugo SKS for <$200 or spend $300 and get a Romanian SAR-1 (semi-auto AK-47). Either shoots cheap ammo. The SAR-1 fits smaller shooters well.

A Garand from www.odcmp.com or a Swiss K-31 are also great options, but both are a little bigger and ammo costs more than the above.
 
My state is very restrictive on guns and high capacity weapons. I'll have to look around carefully.
 
The link worked from my machine.

The CZ site has been working very slowly for the past few days.

Try to go in through the home page:

http://www.cz-usa.com

Navigate to the rimfires from the selections at the bottom of the page. The rifle you are looking for is the Scout youth model.

HTH

Bill
 
It is slow....but I saw some of them anyway. The youth scout looks good for me...and should be about the right length.
 
How about a Ruger Model 96?

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/FAProdView?model=6201&return=Y

I can also recomend the NEF single shots. I've got one of these:

http://www.hr1871.com/firearms/index.php?cat=4&subcat=21

And have been very happy with it. Something like that might make a better first gun, because .22 WMR (aka .22 Mag) gives you alot longer range, and nothing teaches you to make every shot count like a single shot...

Also, the NEF guns are cheap. About $120 for an new NEF rimfire...
 
I've never owned one but I like NEF's. In this case I think one of the downsides is that the .22's are not available with iron sights so the cost is really a whole lot more to get it set up for shooting. The NEF needs rings and a scope. With the CZ the scope could be an option for later and in the meantime a lot of very useful practice and learning could take place with the iron sights which I have heard are pretty good.

Bill
 
OK

As everyone has pointed out a .22lr is the way to go as a good basis for rifle marksmanship.

Single shot, bolt action, pump, lever action or semi-automatic covers all bases.

Plan on one of each :D eventually.

I'd start with a single shot (I like the Stevens/Savage Model 30), then a good bolt action (CZ is fine), maybe a Rossi/Taurus for the pump (does Remington still make one?), a Marlin 39 or Winchester 9422 or even a newer Ruger 96 for the lever action and finally, probably the Ruger 10/22 for the Semi-auto.

Single shot Savage/Stevens

http://www.savagearms.com/rimfire/single_shot_series/30gm.htm

Isn't that just a simple and fine looking little plinker? YMMV.

Pump from Taurus

http://taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?model=M62C&category=Rifle

Kinda looks like Dad's old Winchester Gallery gun.

Adios
 
...another vote for Ruger 10-22

Fairly inexpensive, reliable, no recoil, cheap 22-lr gives plenty of opportunity to get out to the range...what could be better? :cool:

Good luck and safe shooting.

CZ52'
 
Yeah , the CZ Scout sounds like a perfect beginner's rifle for a smaller person. I have owned my CZ Special for over a year now - the accuracy is phenominal! The price was $189. Not sure about the Scout prices. I shot this target at 50 yards - 10 shots from a benchrest with a 12X scope. One of the best rifle deals to be had!
 

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Great day in the morning, Yoda! That's good shooting! I guess the force was with you that day, huh?
 
Yoda - is the rear sight on the Youth CZ the same as the one one the other "regular" models? If so, then it's a nice leaf one that you can set at any given distance (say, 50 yards), then it's supposed to automatically be sighted for all the other distances marked on the rear leaf for .22lr, from 25 yards to 200 yards, IIRC. As I say, if you're going to scope it, get a Savage or Marlin turnbolt, or single shot, but if you're going to use irons, the CZs are particularly nice.

Also, Mas, keep in mind that a turnbolt or single shot gun is a better choice than a pump or lever, and much better choice than a semi-auto, *IF* you're going to be shooting a lot of very short rounds like Aguila powderless ammo (as I do in the house sometimes :) ). Semi-autos won't feed short and longs typically. Most pumps and lever actions do in theory feed shorts and longs, but you'll still have more luck (no jams) with shorts and Aquilas with a single shot or turnbolt.

And how does a CZ guy NOT recommend the CZ, but instead recommend giving money to the jackasses who advocated stealing our gun rights in 94? Recommending buying Ruger, or actually doing so is tantamount to licking the soles of Dianne Feinswine's pumps.
 
another .22 advantage not mentioned yet...

...is that you can shoot them just about anywhere. 7.62 x 39 and .223 would be frowned upon by most indoor pistol ranges, but anywhere you can shoot anything you can shoot .22's. Heck, you could even get a bullet trap and shoot it in your basement.
 
"Yoda - is the rear sight on the Youth CZ the same as the one one the other "regular" models? "

No , it is not the same sight used on the Lux , Ultra Lux , Special/Trainer - appears to be a very simple "more economical" set up.


"Great day in the morning, Yoda! That's good shooting! I guess the force was with you that day, huh?"

Evidently so , young Jedi! having an absolute dead calm (no wind) early evening definitely did not hurt.
 
My wife got bored with the .22 bolt gun in about 5 shots. I'd recommend a .22 auto. Either a basic Ruger or Marlin. The Marlin 60 is tube fed and is probably the simplist loading concept for a newby. Quite accurate and really cheap.
 
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