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I just ordered all the parts I need to switch mine over to what I want so now I've got to hurry up and decide what to get.
THanks for the advice all
THanks for the advice all
Best sight for an AR?
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I have to bring this back from the dead since my order should be here before long. I went with the Bushmaster flat top with the flip up sights. Now their picture has those sights with the EOTECH HOLOSIGHT. That looks like the flip up open sights are designed to see through that. I've decided to go with the Aimpoint, will that work with those? I don't see why not as long as I flipped teh caps up, but I figured I'd check to see some opinions here.
Careful mount selection will assure you get a cowitness.
Most of the mounts out there for the Aimpoint will mange to do it right off of a flattop receiver with no additional risers or adapters. How much you looking to spend on a mount is about the only question left to ask, ARMS makes a great mount with their #22 and they just came out with a "gooseneck" spacer that brings the Aimpoint up to a perfect cowitness through the iron sights mounting directly off the flattop receiver. Other mounts out there are the Aimpoint railgrabber, GG&G gooseneck, or the Knights Armament mounts.
Most of the mounts out there for the Aimpoint will mange to do it right off of a flattop receiver with no additional risers or adapters. How much you looking to spend on a mount is about the only question left to ask, ARMS makes a great mount with their #22 and they just came out with a "gooseneck" spacer that brings the Aimpoint up to a perfect cowitness through the iron sights mounting directly off the flattop receiver. Other mounts out there are the Aimpoint railgrabber, GG&G gooseneck, or the Knights Armament mounts.
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I'm not really worried about prices of mounts. I'm big on the you've only got to buy the right part once thing. I just have to shop around and try to make it easier on myself by asking y'all.
Happen to have any sites where I could find those ones you mentioned? I'm about to try google and see what pops up. I'm really only concerned about if it works right then I'm happy and not worried about costs.
Happen to have any sites where I could find those ones you mentioned? I'm about to try google and see what pops up. I'm really only concerned about if it works right then I'm happy and not worried about costs.
The Aimpoint is the way to go on the AR15. The military agrees with me. I have used two different mounts; ARMs and a GG&G cantilever. They both worked great and both co-witness.
I have used the Aimpoint in a number of rifle classes firing from 3 yards out to 400. I have no complaints at all. Accuracy is not an issue, reliablility is not an issue, battery life is not an issue. There is one issue; I have the ARMS mount which allows you to remove the Aimpoint with the throw of a single lever. When returned to the rifle, mine did not maintain it's zero. It was about 6" low at 200 yards. That being said, there is no reason to remove the sight unless it is broken. You can use the irons without removing the Aimpoint, you can replace batteries or whatever and never remove the Aimpoint. So, to me, this isn't a real issue either, but it is nice to know.
My advice on dealers; e-mail MSTN (Mid-South Tactical Network). http://www.mstn.biz/
MSTN is the best gun related product business I have ever dealt with. They really know their crap. I quit researching subjects like this. I E-Mail MSTN and tell them what I want to do. They make a suggestion. I buy. They have never been wrong yet.
I have used the Aimpoint in a number of rifle classes firing from 3 yards out to 400. I have no complaints at all. Accuracy is not an issue, reliablility is not an issue, battery life is not an issue. There is one issue; I have the ARMS mount which allows you to remove the Aimpoint with the throw of a single lever. When returned to the rifle, mine did not maintain it's zero. It was about 6" low at 200 yards. That being said, there is no reason to remove the sight unless it is broken. You can use the irons without removing the Aimpoint, you can replace batteries or whatever and never remove the Aimpoint. So, to me, this isn't a real issue either, but it is nice to know.
My advice on dealers; e-mail MSTN (Mid-South Tactical Network). http://www.mstn.biz/
MSTN is the best gun related product business I have ever dealt with. They really know their crap. I quit researching subjects like this. I E-Mail MSTN and tell them what I want to do. They make a suggestion. I buy. They have never been wrong yet.
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I don't really see any reason to be taking it on and off either. I'm really fond of being able to handle things first but if I can find one that will work right I'll pick it up. So with that ARMS #22, which mount would I need? L, M or H?
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Oh you're not pushy. It's already sent I just don't like waiting for things. I'm kinda stubborn like that. Makes me feel like:banghead:
I just don't like waiting for things. I'm kinda stubborn like that. Makes me feel like:banghead: Snaps, ARMS makes a setup specifically for the Aimpoint. Look for the #22M68 with spacer if mounting directly to the flattop. There's a regular straight vertical spacer and then there's the newer gooseneck spacer.
Like mentioned just above, contact MSTN as he'll have most everything in stock. There's also threads out the wazoo over at AR15.com in their forums about mounting Aimpoints to flattops.
Like mentioned just above, contact MSTN as he'll have most everything in stock. There's also threads out the wazoo over at AR15.com in their forums about mounting Aimpoints to flattops.
I started off with the GG&G cantilever mount that I used on a flat top. It co-witnessed and put the dot right where I wanted it. The reason I changed was because I installed a KAC RAS II which has a "hump" where it attaches to the flat top. The meant that the cantilever was now too high and would not co-witness the sights. So, I called MSTN, told them what I had and they sent me the correct ARMs mount for use with the RAS II (which I also bought from them). It now also is at just the right height. To be honest, I don't know exactly what I have; I just took their word for it and it worked great. I do know that you have the mount itself, a spacer, and the rings.
If you emailed MSTN I bet you get an answer tonight. The fact that it is Sunday probably won't matter; they have GREAT customer service.
If you emailed MSTN I bet you get an answer tonight. The fact that it is Sunday probably won't matter; they have GREAT customer service.
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If I get a reply before mid morning tomorrow I'd be amazed. But I'd be happy. Hell, I'd be more than happy to buy it from whoever takes the time to give me the info.
Thanks for that site though. I never know where to look for this kinda stuff.
Thanks for that site though. I never know where to look for this kinda stuff.
444, your mount look like this one in the picture?
That's an #22M68 without spacer, the ARMS #38Ext sleeve gives additional height ontop of the receiver rails so the spacer is not needed.
The same is said to be true for the Knights RAS2 "hump" which I totally believe, you've probably got the #22M68 as well.
Snaps, which flip up rear sights did you go for? ARMS #40 or one of the other brands like a Bushmaster backup iron sight?
That's an #22M68 without spacer, the ARMS #38Ext sleeve gives additional height ontop of the receiver rails so the spacer is not needed.
The same is said to be true for the Knights RAS2 "hump" which I totally believe, you've probably got the #22M68 as well.
Snaps, which flip up rear sights did you go for? ARMS #40 or one of the other brands like a Bushmaster backup iron sight?
Ok, you made me go get it out.
Yes, that looks like my mount.
The base is marked ARMS-17 Tri-Lock
The ring part is marked COMP II M68
And you are right, on mine their is no spacer. The whole point of me buying it was to get it lower to the reciever.
I am using an ARMS #40 rear sight and a standard front sight tower. I previously was using a GG&G fold down rear sight, and it was fine. But since I was changing the optic mount I decided to also get the ARMS rear also.
I now have the GG&G rear sight on my .458 SOCOM upper. It has a four rail gas block and I bought the Bushmaster front sight for it. I am also going to be using the GG&G cantilever Aimpoint mount on that upper when I get a second Aimpoint to put on it. Right now I am using an ARMS scope mount with a Leupold 2-8x varible scope. I don't know the configuration on that mount either. I called MSTN and told them what I wanted to do.........................
Yes, that looks like my mount.
The base is marked ARMS-17 Tri-Lock
The ring part is marked COMP II M68
And you are right, on mine their is no spacer. The whole point of me buying it was to get it lower to the reciever.
I am using an ARMS #40 rear sight and a standard front sight tower. I previously was using a GG&G fold down rear sight, and it was fine. But since I was changing the optic mount I decided to also get the ARMS rear also.
I now have the GG&G rear sight on my .458 SOCOM upper. It has a four rail gas block and I bought the Bushmaster front sight for it. I am also going to be using the GG&G cantilever Aimpoint mount on that upper when I get a second Aimpoint to put on it. Right now I am using an ARMS scope mount with a Leupold 2-8x varible scope. I don't know the configuration on that mount either. I called MSTN and told them what I wanted to do.........................
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I went with Bushmaster's Modular Accessories System Rear Flip-up Sight. Front to match it. I'm really not that picky, as long as everything works I'm happy.
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