Best Tactical Training Course?

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I am new to guns and have just purchased a handgun to start learning. Ultimately I want to learn to defend myself with one. I live in Southern California but would be willing to travel in the western states area. What would you recommend as a good place to get trained.

Just like there are a million martial arts studios there seem to be quite a few different places to learn tactical handgun techniques. Which ones do you think cut the BS and teach practical knowledge and applications?

I was looking at this place:

http://www.1topgun1.com/asp/Courses/fs_Courses.asp

But I really have no way of telling whether it is a waste of time or not.

Your thoughts are appreciated.
 
I will. Scott Reitz seems to have a good reputation.

Thanks for the suggestions.

On another note, what would be a good guideline for when I am competent enough to take the beginning tactical class? I know they say for beginners but I assume a basic competence or level of skill is important to get the most out of the class.

Thanks
 
Call the school and ask. They're the only ones who know for certain what they expect and need from students entering each class.

Generally speaking, an introductory class requires students to know nothing at all coming in, not even which end the bullets come out of.

A beginning class -- usually -- expects incoming students to know how to load and unload the gun, know where the safety lever is and when to use it, know the safety rules, etc. Good marksmanship is not important at this stage, but you should have some idea how to run the gun. Some (many) schools combine introductory and beginning classes; in these cases, it's good to be basically familiar with how your gun works, but the instructor won't expect it of you.

An intermediate class -- again, usually -- expects that students know basic firearms manipulations including how to clear malfunctions. Students are expected to know how to draw and reholster safely, and have most of their basic equipment issues already worked out. Still no particular speed or marksmanship expectations coming into such a class, but if you've got a nasty trigger jerk or other accuracy issue, you might be better served to start at the beginning class.

An advanced class -- usually -- is built with the expectation that incoming students have all their equipment issues worked out, know how to draw & reholster safely, know how to do speed reloads, and are not going to be intimidated by being introduced to complex skill sets which will require them to safely perform all basic gun manipulations while learning new things at the same time. This means that all basic gun manipulations should be so familiar and so well-drilled that they take little conscious thought. An advanced tactical class also has a certain level of expectations about students' shooting accuracy and (to a lesser extent) speed; if those are still an issue for you, consider taking the intermediate class a second time before joining an advanced-level class.

Again, these expectations will and do vary from one school to the next, and from instructor to instructor within the same school. If in doubt, call and ask. It's the only way to be certain that the class will be a good fit for you.

pax
 
I agree with pax. Call and ask if a class you have interest in is right for you.

Blackwater is kind of . . . hmmmm . . . militaristic and regimented. Better classes exist for the armed citizen.


Our Study Group discussed a year or two ago how to evaluate a class and its instructors. The best class is the one you are in right now. Everyone has slightly different cirriculum and techniques, but most will have a legal component, with some mixture of classroom to practical application on techniques.

I'd steer away from anyone that claimed to offer "the secret", those that center around a specific gun platform, and those that market heavily towards the law enforcement and military customers.

Other than that, nearly any training is better none. I don't believe there is any such thing as "the best", certainly when it comes to "tactical training". Enroll in one, and learn from it. Sometime in the future take another from someone else, and so on. Become well rounded. There are no "the best". There is good, and there is better, and mixed in are a few that I could say are "lacking".
 
For a brand new gun owner I would go with NRA basic handgun. Scott Reitz is very good and close to you
 
That part of CA, I unconditionally recommend Bill Murphy at Firearms Training Associates. I've worked with him a bunch over the years, at FTA, at GUNSITE and through the SureFire Institute in the low-light programs he pioneered.

I've said on the air and I'll say again here — Murphy is one of the best instructors in the country, and FTA is an undiscovered gem.

Michael B
 
Sorry, my eyes weren't working...for some reason I read it as "being part of CA"!

I should probably go to sleep now. :)
 
I highly recommend John Farnam's courses at www.defense-training.com

His course is the most enjoyable and interesting I have taken.

He has an extensive travel schedule, so he is probably coming to a town near you soon.

Also, keep in mind that there is no BEST course - you need to take some training from an instructor qualified and knowledgeable in the modern defensive pistol curriculum. While variations in course content exist, the core curriculum is quite similar when taught by someone who knows what they are doing.

There are many ways to teach, and much to learn, but there are at least 10-20 quality schools and instructors and all offer something unique and useful.

I have gained much knowledge by attending different schools and comparing and contrasting the techniques and mindset offered.

Do not obsess over getting into "the best" class since it is a myth and does not exist.

Plan on your first class being the first step in a journey of personal development that will not end.

M
 
Tactical Response will be teaching in California in January and again in March. I don't know how far you are from Pasadena or San Jose.

January 27 - 28 Fighting Pistol Pasadena, CA
March 1 - 2 Fighting Pistol San Jose, CA

Make training a priority. There are several good schools and instructors out there. Start taking classes!
 
Tactical Response and Scott Reitz of ITTS definitely offer some great training.
Since you're new to shooting, also consider scoring a cheap ($100 or so ) Front Sight course. Four-day defensive handgun will help you get the fundamentals down with a good intro to tactics and mindset.

Chuck
 
ITTS Tactical Training

I am from Southern Calif and have taken courses at ITTS with Scott Reitz for over 8 years among other classes I have taken. I have been to TR, Gunsite, Frontsight and a few other courses.

Without any heistation I say if you live in So Cal go to ITTS. I have taken 30 + classes with Scottie and he brings a reality base to it that no one else has that I have seen. I have taken Handgun, Rifle, Shotgun, Knife, Precission Rifle and a few other areas with him. He and Clint Smith are the top two instructors I have had. In addition to him, the access to other great instructors who worked with Scottie when he was with the LAPD that I have had is unbelievable.

He can do what he teaches, tells it like it is and I have access through him to more people who have been in real shoots than anywhere else I have been.

He doesn't claim to have invented any new techniques just teaches you what he has learned from his instructors and experiences. Yet he has a few things he shows in class that you won't see anywhere else. This is in advance classes.

From tactics I have learned from him when I have taken courses other places I have been able to work the problem easier and better than if I didnt have the knowledge he gave me. I have brought friends to his courses and everyone that has been in his courses gets hooked due to what you learn and how he teaches it.

I know I am going on so I will stop now just I have immense respect for Scottie.

Charles
 
ITTS is the place. Start with the basic 3 day series. Once you learn wrong techniques it is hard to break learned patterns. You will get real world gunfighting techniques from Uncle Scotty, in a very safe manner!
 
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