blazer ammo

[.45FMJoe]

Does anyone actually have first hand experience (preferably with pictoral proof) of blazer aluminum cased ammo chewing up an extractor? I would think it shouldn't be an issue seeing as how steel is a lot less maliable than aluminum. Anyone? I don't want the "my buddy says" I want first hand experiences.

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[10Ring]

Not I

I have no neagtive experiences using Blazers (FMJ). Quite the opposite. I have been using them for years in my Sig P220. I can't remember the last time a round failed to feed or fire. Never had an extraction problem either.

Darned good ammo if your handgun manufacturer approves (H&K does not).

 

[BluesBear]

How can you prove something that doesn't happen?

 

[Kodiak AK]

The only Blazer bad story I can say I saw with my own eyes is the following.


I keep running out when I am at the range .




Seriously I did get a interesting jam once where the case stovepiped mouth down and ended up getting partialy crushed.

 

[GoRon]

I have run 1000+ thru my Springfield TRP with no problems. It seems a little hotter than Win white box. I mostly use Speer Lawman.

 

[mmay1]

blazer

I have used sveeral thousand rounds of the aluminum cased Blazer with no problems in .45 and 9 mm. I recently used the Blazer Brass in .40s&w and it was fine, as well.

 

[oscar]

I have put probably 3000 rounds of 9mm thru my Sig 229 with no problems.

 

[hansolo]

Blazer Brass

My S&W 910s feed/fires/ejects ANYTHING....my CZ 75B 9mm is a bit picky:
when fireing Blazer aluminum cases, I'd have an occasional stovepipe(one/100). I recently got a bunch of the new Blazer
Brass: ....I love it! So does my CZ; it "seems" hotter, like the Speer Lawman....we happy

P.S. I never heard of an aluminum case damaging an extractor.

 

[Gary A]

I believe I remember reading that when Blazer first came out there was no finish put on the aluminum cases as there is today. Not sure what the finish is, but think I read that the finish was applied to improve extraction and, I think, something about being easier on extractors (could be wrong about that). Since aluminum can actually be pretty abrasive, like aluminum oxide as sandpaper, mayber there is, or was, something to the old stories. Whatever the case, I think the modern Blazer is just fine. Nothing to do with semi-autos, but I like the Blazer 158 grain .357...accurate, reasonably priced, and moderately powered. It does not extract/eject as well as brass-cased ammo however, IMO.

 

[jsalcedo]

Blazer is great. It functions in all my 9mm and .45s

 

[RWK]

I guess, I don’t get it. Extractor damage/ware is principally a function of the hardness of the cartridge case; thus, steel cases can cause greater damage and ware than brass cases. Since Blazer aluminum cases seem even softer than brass, I suggest the potential for extractor damage/ware would be reduced.

 

[LynnKCircle]

I was told -- but never had it confirmed -- that some ranges which sell the brass they collect deliberately discourage people from using aluminum and stell-cased shells. They do this only because it makes extra work for them, having to sort out the aluminum and steel from the brass.

To my knowlege there has never been a confirmed case of a Blazer round splitting the case or any other such nonsense. Moreover, although a few people have said I'm foolish to use Wolf ammo in my .45, I've put about 2000 rounds through it so far and the extractor continues to work fine. Think about it: GI .45 ammo was steel cased in WWII. Just how many war stories have you heard about 1911 .45s malfunctioning because the ammo broke the extractor. I've looked for them and found zilch.

 

[thisaway]

To Mr. LynnKCircle:

I have a .45 ACP Blazer "squib load" that was fired in my S&W M1955 Target revo a few years ago. The case is split about halfway down each side. It didn't damage my pistol, as I have seen the "squib" phenomenon before and immediately ceased fire. The bullet was driven about 3 inches up the 6.5-inch bbl and had to be knocked out with a brass rod. I kept the hull & bullet as curiosities.

This is the only instance of failure I recall experiencing with Blazer ammo, out of many thousands of rounds of various calibres.

 

[surfinUSA]

I use blazers in most calibers when I can find them. They have never given me a single problem in any caliber.

 

[NewShooter78]

I've never had any problems with Blazer, and as soon as I find a new range I'll be using it again.

 

[dairycreek]

Read a lot of posts about concern with Blazer ammo!!

Most of them start out - I heard about this problem someone had with Blazer ammo and etc., etc., etc. I can't think of a single time when someone posted that they had, indeed, had a personal, serious, problem with Blazer ammo. As for me, I have used Blazers in a variety of guns and calibers across a twenty year or so period and have never ever had a problem. FWIW. Good shooting

 

[caz223]

Well, I personally had a blazer 9mm in a CZ75b that the case split all the way down almost to the web.
It was at the 12:00 position, sprayed some burning stuff in the air when the gun unlocked (I thought there wasn't any pressure in there when the gun unlocked, but I guess I was wrong!), and the sound was much different than normal.
The case extracted, ejected, and landed on the ground, I saw where it landed, and examined it more closely, may still have it somewhere.
No harm done (Had eye protection).
Had the split been lined up with anything critical, something could have been broken, but nothing was in my case.
Out of thousands of blazers in many different calibers, that was the only failure I've ever had, and I guess it wasn't even really a failure, just could have been.
It certainly wasn't what I expected.
I reload 9mm now, or shoot WIN white box.
Still shoot blazer 10mm in my G20 (so I don't wreck my good brass), and a little .45 here and there when I get too lazy to reload.
Still have a partial box of 357SIG blazer ammo, too bad they stopped making it. I bought a lot of it in 357SIG, loved it. It forced me to take up reloading for 357SIG (When they discontinued it), so I guess it wasn't all bad.

 

[bountyhunter]

He is probably confusing Blazer with the steel case Russian crap. That stuff rips the hooks off extractors.

 

[mainmech48]

I've used lots of Blazers in both 9x19 and .45 ACP without any problems whatsoever.

Almost 2300 .45s went through my Springfield Champion in five days at the Chapman Academy. They all went "bang" and hit where the muzzle was pointed.

What else could one ask of their ammo?

 

[blue86buick]

Heck, blazer? I've never had a problem that would cause me to remember it. Although, I've only shot 5-6 boxes through a Bersa .380 before I traded it for my Kimber .45, which has only had one or two through it...then I realized Wolf was cheaper , and again, haven't had ANY memorable problems in at least 500 rounds.

 

[stevelyn]

Blazer is our issue training ammo. We use it since we issue Speer Gold Dots for duty and we wanted to stay with the same manufacturer. It hits to the same POA as GDs. In our experience, we've never had a problem with it in our Glocks. I also shoot it in my BHP and Llama Minimax w/o problems.
I've noticed it may burn a little dirtier than other brands, but I can't say for sure. None of my pistols have gagged on it yet and it goes BANG everytime I press the trigger.

 

[Lennyjoe]

I guess Im the exception to the rule then.

I shot some Blazer out of my S&W 686 quite a few years ago and one of the casings split midway up. Scored the heck out of the cylinder.

I havent used it since.

But I might give some 10MM a try.

 

[Kodiak AK]

I just wish they would bring back the flying ashtray .