Blood Mountain, GA
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Hammer, Currently is is against the law to carry in any State Park , Historical Site, WMA in Georgia. There is Currently a bill in the legislature to change this.
Please see Georgia Packing for current Georgia Gun laws.
Also, you may interested in checking out Georgia Carry.Org, Georgia's premier Grassroots Gun Rights Organization, whi is fighting to remove many of Georgia's restrictive carry laws.
Please see Georgia Packing for current Georgia Gun laws.
Also, you may interested in checking out Georgia Carry.Org, Georgia's premier Grassroots Gun Rights Organization, whi is fighting to remove many of Georgia's restrictive carry laws.
Blood mountain is a section of the Appalachian Trail that runs near Vogel State Park. Some of the trail runs through the park I believe. Some of the trail also runs through both the Chestatee and Blue Ridge wildlife management areas as well. The parts of the trail on National Forest are legal to carry on. It is hard to get to the parts of the trail where it is legal without crossing areas where it is currently not legal. I am not clear how this proposed bill would change carrying in WMA's
Rockerga
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Carry/WMA/State parks Etc.
jmr40 hit the nail on the head: it is very hard to carry legally (National Forest etc.,) while hiking and then wander into State parks and even WMA's.
I do not advocate telling someone to do something illegal but I personally hike, backpack & camp all the time and on all possible types of land. If I am not supposed to be carrying I conceal well and play the "don't tell" game if asked. If I am in legal territory it is on my side. THESE DAYS I WOULD NEVER, NEVER GO OUT INTO THE WILDERNESS WITHOUT MY SIDEARM AT MINIMUM.
Animals do not worry me, only the human kind.
I was part of the search team for Meredith Emerson so I know why you asked pertinent to that area.... I was the only non-official-type just good ole "Ron Q. Citizen" allowed as my expereince in search & destroy (Marine Recon) plus extensive KSA's plus knowledge of the area.
jmr40 hit the nail on the head: it is very hard to carry legally (National Forest etc.,) while hiking and then wander into State parks and even WMA's.
I do not advocate telling someone to do something illegal but I personally hike, backpack & camp all the time and on all possible types of land. If I am not supposed to be carrying I conceal well and play the "don't tell" game if asked. If I am in legal territory it is on my side. THESE DAYS I WOULD NEVER, NEVER GO OUT INTO THE WILDERNESS WITHOUT MY SIDEARM AT MINIMUM.
Animals do not worry me, only the human kind.
I was part of the search team for Meredith Emerson so I know why you asked pertinent to that area.... I was the only non-official-type just good ole "Ron Q. Citizen" allowed as my expereince in search & destroy (Marine Recon) plus extensive KSA's plus knowledge of the area.
Ash
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Been hiking in that area. Some of the names are pretty ominious - Blood Mountain, Slaughter Gap...
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Rockerga
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Yeah, the "out of towners" involved in the search after looking over the topo's and the names sort of "gulped" and said "how appropriate but sad." Kind of gave them the "heebie-jeebies" (sp???) if you know what I mean.
People like Gary Hilton are the exact reason why carry in parks should be legal. When guns are not allowed, (even Gary Hilton did not have a gun) then it comes down to a matter of strength. He is/was stronger than all of his victims.
In a world with no guns, the lesser arms prevail. In a world with no arms, brute force prevails. Anyone who advocates no guns or no arms (the U.K., for example, or this policy against carrying in parks) is simply advocating brute force (by size or numbers)... the stronger over the weaker.
In a world with no guns, the lesser arms prevail. In a world with no arms, brute force prevails. Anyone who advocates no guns or no arms (the U.K., for example, or this policy against carrying in parks) is simply advocating brute force (by size or numbers)... the stronger over the weaker.
Rockerga
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Even though it has been reasonably proven Gary Hilton was not armed with a handgun or similiar weapon he did have a stun baton. He is now the lead suspect in several more cases and one does include a man and his wife from N.C. it all comes down to unpredictability and getting the upper hand after gaining someone's trust and/or taking advantage of normal trusting folk (Like most) and turning to your advantage.
That is why I said "I" never go anywhere unarmed in the wildnerness nowadays! The Georgia State Parks and WMA's (WMA's in non-hunting seasons) are primed for "unarmed hikers" to be taken advantage of. Why do you think that was Gary Hilton's main hang-outs...Ditto for his locations used in the other crimes in N.C., and FL!: all parks where weapons are not allowed!
This is tantamount to placing a placard in your picture window in the front of your home stating: "UNARMED HOUSE COME AND GET IT!"
People on this forum like myself are not criminals so we don't think like them so we need to be prepared when someone like a Gary Hilton meets us: "I will be prepared and he will surely know it!"
That is why I said "I" never go anywhere unarmed in the wildnerness nowadays! The Georgia State Parks and WMA's (WMA's in non-hunting seasons) are primed for "unarmed hikers" to be taken advantage of. Why do you think that was Gary Hilton's main hang-outs...Ditto for his locations used in the other crimes in N.C., and FL!: all parks where weapons are not allowed!
This is tantamount to placing a placard in your picture window in the front of your home stating: "UNARMED HOUSE COME AND GET IT!"
People on this forum like myself are not criminals so we don't think like them so we need to be prepared when someone like a Gary Hilton meets us: "I will be prepared and he will surely know it!"
"Been hiking in that area. Some of the names are pretty ominious - Blood Mountain, Slaughter Gap...Ash"
Been there and did that as well.
Blood Mountain is named such because it is where Indian women of that area went to bleed during their menses, from what I was told.
Anyone, man or woman, who goes hiking alone, or with a friendly dog as companion, should be prepared to suffer possible consequences if he/she decides to get friendly with a stranger.
I would never go into the woods these days without the ability to defend myself, to the death, if necessary. And believe me, we lived in the National Forests of N GA and SE TN most weekends of Springtime when the kids were young.
Too many psychopaths have been let out of the asylums/prisons. Many, many, many insane people and "zombies" seek shelter in the woods, and especially during winter many migrate into the Southern woods.
I'm not talking about homeless people who are just in a "circumstance". I'm talking about the insane.
This ain't grandpappy's world anymore. One must be very careful whom one allows to "get close".
Condolences to the families of the victims.
Been there and did that as well.
Blood Mountain is named such because it is where Indian women of that area went to bleed during their menses, from what I was told.
Anyone, man or woman, who goes hiking alone, or with a friendly dog as companion, should be prepared to suffer possible consequences if he/she decides to get friendly with a stranger.
I would never go into the woods these days without the ability to defend myself, to the death, if necessary. And believe me, we lived in the National Forests of N GA and SE TN most weekends of Springtime when the kids were young.
Too many psychopaths have been let out of the asylums/prisons. Many, many, many insane people and "zombies" seek shelter in the woods, and especially during winter many migrate into the Southern woods.
I'm not talking about homeless people who are just in a "circumstance". I'm talking about the insane.
This ain't grandpappy's world anymore. One must be very careful whom one allows to "get close".
Condolences to the families of the victims.
SageMonkey
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The Appalachian Trail has such a mish mash of state, local, and federal laws that is almost impossible to legally carry, except on small chunks of it.
That doesn't mean that people don't. I thru-hiked and knew several who did. Also, I never knew a backpacker to be searched, even in New England while hitchhiking to town for a resupply.
In some cases, maybe, concealed means concealed. It would be best to know, though, what class of crime it might be... ie, even a slight risk of a felony conviction would probably make it a poor idea.
That doesn't mean that people don't. I thru-hiked and knew several who did. Also, I never knew a backpacker to be searched, even in New England while hitchhiking to town for a resupply.
In some cases, maybe, concealed means concealed. It would be best to know, though, what class of crime it might be... ie, even a slight risk of a felony conviction would probably make it a poor idea.
realityscope
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HB 89 passed recently and says
"Any person having been issued a license to carry a concealed weapon pursuant to Code Section 16-11-129 shall be permitted to carry such weapon, subject to the limitations of this part, in all parks, historic sites, or recreational areas as defined by Code Section 12-3-10."
no longer illegal to carry while hiking
"Any person having been issued a license to carry a concealed weapon pursuant to Code Section 16-11-129 shall be permitted to carry such weapon, subject to the limitations of this part, in all parks, historic sites, or recreational areas as defined by Code Section 12-3-10."
no longer illegal to carry while hiking
I would like to see a clarification on carrying on WMA's. There are 100's of miles of trails in the N. Georgia area where I hike and many cross these areas. Even though most are also Natinal Forests they specifically forbid firearms that are not locked in your vehicle unless you are participating in a hunt there.
Marlin 45 carbine
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in reference to post #9 the alleged connection with Hilton occured on Natl. Forest land, not park land (I live in the area in question). It is legal to carry a .22 caliber pistol w/barrel no longer than 6" in closed season. or open for that matter, as bear and small game season is still open. I checked some years (10 or so) back and it's my understanding that this applys to all Natl. Fst. land in WNC. since coyotes have been declared a pest species I need to check about carry for the intent to use on them during closed season for game.
realityscope
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i would think WMA's fall under the park and recreactional area but it doesn't specifically say so i'm not sure
DJAteOhAte
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realityscope said:
First, HB89 passed the Senate. It still has to be approved by the House and signed by the Governor before it becomes law.
Second, HB89 does NOT address WMAs. That leaves many wilderness areas of the state off limits. Many State Parks are ALSO WMAs, so check before you go to make sure.
Here's the official list of WMAs in GA: http://www.georgiaoutdoors.com/hunting/WMAmaps.asp
realityscope
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The General Assembly website says it has been adopted by the house, maybe i'm missing something??
DJAteOhAte
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realityscope said:
http://www.legis.ga.gov/legis/2007_08/sum/hb89.htm
Since it was modified since it originally passed the house it has to go back for their approval.
Rockerga
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I have heard of "issues" with Park Rangers on WMA's: Locked in your vehicle with a CCW is the only way it is cool. (Not talking .22 here) National forest land follows "typically" the laws of the state in which they are in. All State Parks in Georgia to my knowledge (Everone I have been in) state firearms are forbidden. (Alcohol too... NO FUN!)
realityscope
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OK, i understand that, i just thought since it passed once it was good to go...
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