Bobbed/Hammerless .38/.357 for CCW??

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craig101

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Hello,

I have a S&W 332 .32 H&R mag pistol currently. but i've been thinking of another snubbie for carry, it being either a .38/.357. i've heard people talk here of 9mm pistols, but i've never seen one before. i don't want a .45/.44 pistol.

anyway, what models do you guys recommend i look at? i want it to be either hammerless or have a bobbed hammer, i don't want the hammer catching on anything.

i have an old S&W model 38 snubbie, but it's for car use.

so bobbed/hammerless, bigger than .32 H&R, but not bigger than .357.

thanks

Craig
 
I'd recommend a S&W 642. It's light enough for easy pocket carry and heavy enough that I can actually make it through a box of carry ammo. I don't even want to think about shooting one of the scandium .357s (model 340) with full power loads. If you want .357 then one of the heavier snubbies (model 640) sounds like a good idea to me.
I had a 637 which I liked fine but I traded for a 642 when I realized that I wasn't doing anything with the hammer but collecting lint.
 
How about a 5 shot J frame shrouded hammer S&W Bodyguard either the all steel blue model 49 or a stainless model 649 or the light weight alloy version (aluminum frame/steel cylinder and barrel) S&W model 38 (blue) and model 638 (stainless) that are about perfect for pocket carry ? For a small snub revolver they are exceptionaly accurate with the right load......also there is the all steel hammerless stainless S&W model 640 and their relatives the lighter weight alloy frame model S&W 442 (blue) and model 642 (stainless). If it were me I would look at used older models in .38 Special made before S&W began installing their "infernal"...oops...I mean internal locks. Why....I prefer the older ones because in my personal experience they are built a little better and have a bit more "character" than what is currently coming off the S&W assemly line; I find anything more powerful that .38 Special +p out of a S&W J frame too much for me to control for effective and accurate follow up shots; also I find them no fun to practice with. Others like their new S&W's just fine or think the .357 mag. is a better caliber choice for personal protection. ( If I was convinced I wanted to carry a smallish 5 shot revolver chambered for the .357 mag I would seriously consider a Ruger SP 101, heavier and beefier than the S&W 5 shot revolvers; Ruger manufacturers a "hammerless" model. I own a SP101 and don't mind shooting mag. rounds in it very much at all.)
There are plenty of good, used, older hammerless/shrouded hammer S&W J frames in fine shape on the market.....expect to pay $275-$350 for one in excellent shape. Patience is the key to finding a nice one. Take care of it and you will be able to get your money out of it in resale if you choose.....no problem !
If I were going to buy a new 5 shot hammerless/concealed hammer snub I would look hard at a the Taurus models.......model 85CH (concealed hammer) and the models 850 (hammerless) and 851 (shrouded hammer); I believe Taurus makes most of these models in ultralight aluminum alloy and titanium versions also. I think in general Taurus is currently manufacturing great little 5 shot snub revolvers with fit and finish in my opinion a litter nice than current S&W J frames......the 5 shot Taurus revolver triggers I have tried lately where much smoother than the brand new J frame Smith's I tried. An added plus is that the Taurus revolvers tend to sell for at least $50 less than new S&W's if you shop around. However there are plenty of folks on this forum who like their new S&W J frames and would take issue with me.....we all have our opinions and am only offering mine as such...I am cetainly no source authority !
Alernatively you could look at used J frame S&W M36's, M60's, M37's, M637's and have the hammer bobbed. I once found a nice used, inexpensive, S&W M36-2 and had a reputable gunsmith install a bobbed hammed.....total cost for gun, parts and work was probably not much more than $250. I still carry it from time to time.
A used D frame Colt Detective Special or alloy Cobra/Agent with a hammer shroud installed will work. Added plus : six rounds.
Of course the S&W M15 in the above picture is awful nice ( a 2" S&W M10 with a bobbed hammer would do as well ! ), if you arn't looking for something smaller than a K frame.
These are my insignificant musings.

-regards
 
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My recommendations are boringly conventional:

S&W 642 for .38/+P carry, Ruger SP101 (2" bobbed hammer model) for .357 carry.

Actually, for .357 I'd consider getting a 3" SP101 and having a gunsmith chop the hammer. Five Win 145 gr Silvertips in that stout, shootable little gun = tenacious D.
 
I currently carry a SP101 2 1/4 bobbed hammer .357 mag. Love it. I specifically bought the bobbed hammer because it was going to be my CCW gun. The other night I was sitting in the chair watching some DVDs when I realized that if it had a hammer....it would have been poking me in the side all that time!!
 
Kamicosmos: Wouldn't it be hammering you all of the time? Kidding of course....

I don't think you could go wrong with the Ruger SP101. It seems less brutal to shoot than the S&W J frames with stoked 357 loads for me.
 
Another vote for the 642

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Much better choice than bobbed, in my opinion, because the gun can actually be fired from inside a coat pocket if necessary. I wouldn't try that with a bobbed hammer, though under some circumstances that might work.

If you can handle the weight... the 640 in .357 is a very fine CCW revo... internal hammer also.
 
Another Vote for the S&W 642/442 twins, you can get either for under $400 NIB (442 costs a little more). They weigh 15 ounces, and you can also shave off another ounce if you replace the uncle mike's w/ Hogue bantams to bring you to 14 oz. And if you want to go lighter you're looking at the 340 which is 12 oz, and you can fire .357 out of it, but I don't recommend it, as the recoil is fierce.

Above is what I think is best, but if you don't mind the weight, or prefer to shoot .357, I'd go Ruger. Their SP101 is in mid 20 ounce range, a good gun, and can also be bought for under $400 NIB.

I think you can't go wrong with either.
 
Gunsnrovers: Thats' the best looking Model 15 I have ever seen no matter the bbl length.
where did you get the front sight and grips?
 
The 642 is definitely a sweet gun although like every Smith J frame it needs a trigger job badly out of the box :(

I have a pair of M66's snubs that I had the performance center bobb the hammers, chamfer and trigger job - believe they call it their combat package. It makes for a great CCW gun although if I were to do it now I would send it to Williams instead, S&W trigger jobs are pretty poor unfortunately.
 
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