30mag
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Why?
Seems like the knife would be rather inaccessible.
Does it simply offer concealed carry of larger knives?
Seems like the knife would be rather inaccessible.
Does it simply offer concealed carry of larger knives?
Boot carry of knives?
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Raptorq7r13
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I imagine it's kind of a backup to a belt worn knife. Better concealment, though there not always that large.
30mag
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Thank you.
ArfinGreebly
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Tall Boots
A boot knife would make some sense worn in tall boots, like riding boots or (ahem) jack boots.
In shorter boots, especially tighter lace-up boots, there would pretty much be no point.
A boot knife would make some sense worn in tall boots, like riding boots or (ahem) jack boots.
In shorter boots, especially tighter lace-up boots, there would pretty much be no point.
30mag
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I'm from Texas, so plenty of people wear boots, but I can't imagine carrying a knife in my cowboy boots, or my work boots.
Personally, I don't tuck my pants in my boots, because it makes me look like a ...kicker. But if you did have your pants tucked into your boots, I suppose that it would be easier to access your knife.
Personally, I don't tuck my pants in my boots, because it makes me look like a ...kicker. But if you did have your pants tucked into your boots, I suppose that it would be easier to access your knife.
Carl Levitian
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Never put your knife where you have to bend down to get it.
Boot knife ~ ankle holster/hideout gun
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Carl,
I respectfully disagree you, just a wee bit.
I suspect you and I are still on the same page though. *grin*
Folks-
Always investigate and verify knife laws for environments.
If, fixed blades are legal, adhere to legal definitions and restrictions.
i.e. Most states have "dirks" listed as not legal, so know for sure what defines a "dirk".
That said, a boot knife is a very smart way to carry a knife for many situations.
Where are your hands when you need to access a "tool" Now! "
Screw the armchair ranger and mall ninja bull chip!
i.e. Canoeing, kayaking and heck even a jonboat on small rivers and one can get into trouble.
If a log, tree, rock, or something impedes your hands, down below the waist, having a knife in boot, or on ankle might save your life.
You are not able to access a knife on waist, in pocket, or around neck.
The same can be said about having a knife around neck, as hands cannot reach waist.
Pocket knife in pocket, might be the lifesaver for other situations when the knives around neck, on hip, or in boot, are lost. Lost due to whitewater, or taking a fall down a hill, or maybe a sheath knife (fixed or folding) is lost out of sheath.
There is no holy grail in all this, hence the reason folks are advised to have more than one knife, and of various types and sizes.
Many a cowboy/cowgirl that I know of, use[d] boot knives. So did farmers and ranchers.
Not just due to riding a horse, things happens with tractors, and other situations.
These folks are not worried about mutant zombies, instead it might be faster to access a boot knife while on horse, tractor, mower, four-wheeler, even getting out of truck, to cut a dawg with lease caught in a fence, or that horse that run off with a bridle and bit.
Perhaps sitting in the bed of a truck, and the dawg with lease jumps over the side, and the lease gets caught, essentially "hanging" the dawg.
From sitting the boot knife can be drawn, lease/rope cut , thus taking care of the problem.
None of this "bruce lee on meth tactical crap. A cowboy/cowgirl riding in the bed of the truck, just eases out boot knife, leans over, cuts, and frees dawg.
I know, I used a custom fixed blade made of 01 in my LL Bean boots to free a dawg...
It seems the tack-tickle knife , that cost too darn much, would not cut butter on a hot southern summer day, despite the fact it had been "doo-dad" sharpened with the latest greatest doo-dad of the month.
Law Enforcement fully understand sitting in a vehicle, marked or undercover.
Ankle holsters for back up guns and fixed blades in a boot, are comfy, as well as being "comforting".
Ditto for motorcyclists.
I personally run a gun and knife weak side, so my strong side can run the throttle.
Boot, "might" be one method of carry...
Shoulder holster another...
There are no absolutes, or holy grails, or ultimate's, in any of this, despite what the armchair rangers, and tack-tickle toddlers say.
Tools in the tool box means just that - plural.
Dadburn Gremlins!
I have been trying to submit this post for 20 minutes!
I respectfully disagree you, just a wee bit.
I suspect you and I are still on the same page though. *grin*
Folks-
Always investigate and verify knife laws for environments.
If, fixed blades are legal, adhere to legal definitions and restrictions.
i.e. Most states have "dirks" listed as not legal, so know for sure what defines a "dirk".
That said, a boot knife is a very smart way to carry a knife for many situations.
Where are your hands when you need to access a "tool" Now! "
Screw the armchair ranger and mall ninja bull chip!
i.e. Canoeing, kayaking and heck even a jonboat on small rivers and one can get into trouble.
If a log, tree, rock, or something impedes your hands, down below the waist, having a knife in boot, or on ankle might save your life.
You are not able to access a knife on waist, in pocket, or around neck.
The same can be said about having a knife around neck, as hands cannot reach waist.
Pocket knife in pocket, might be the lifesaver for other situations when the knives around neck, on hip, or in boot, are lost. Lost due to whitewater, or taking a fall down a hill, or maybe a sheath knife (fixed or folding) is lost out of sheath.
There is no holy grail in all this, hence the reason folks are advised to have more than one knife, and of various types and sizes.
Many a cowboy/cowgirl that I know of, use[d] boot knives. So did farmers and ranchers.
Not just due to riding a horse, things happens with tractors, and other situations.
These folks are not worried about mutant zombies, instead it might be faster to access a boot knife while on horse, tractor, mower, four-wheeler, even getting out of truck, to cut a dawg with lease caught in a fence, or that horse that run off with a bridle and bit.
Perhaps sitting in the bed of a truck, and the dawg with lease jumps over the side, and the lease gets caught, essentially "hanging" the dawg.
From sitting the boot knife can be drawn, lease/rope cut , thus taking care of the problem.
None of this "bruce lee on meth tactical crap. A cowboy/cowgirl riding in the bed of the truck, just eases out boot knife, leans over, cuts, and frees dawg.
I know, I used a custom fixed blade made of 01 in my LL Bean boots to free a dawg...
It seems the tack-tickle knife , that cost too darn much, would not cut butter on a hot southern summer day, despite the fact it had been "doo-dad" sharpened with the latest greatest doo-dad of the month.
Law Enforcement fully understand sitting in a vehicle, marked or undercover.
Ankle holsters for back up guns and fixed blades in a boot, are comfy, as well as being "comforting".
Ditto for motorcyclists.
I personally run a gun and knife weak side, so my strong side can run the throttle.
Boot, "might" be one method of carry...
Shoulder holster another...
There are no absolutes, or holy grails, or ultimate's, in any of this, despite what the armchair rangers, and tack-tickle toddlers say.
Tools in the tool box means just that - plural.
Dadburn Gremlins!
I have been trying to submit this post for 20 minutes!
Deltaboy1984
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I carried a bootknife for years in Ark but since double edged ones are illegal in Texas It sets in dresser drawer.
loandr.
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Not for I....
Other than long term seated positions such as while Driving, I see it as a big DISadvantage....NO different than an Ankle Holster IMO .
BBG
Other than long term seated positions such as while Driving, I see it as a big DISadvantage....NO different than an Ankle Holster IMO .
BBG
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30mag
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So, it's really an "in addition to hip carry" thing.
If you bend over to grab a boot knife someone's going kick your knoggin through the goal posts.
A boot knife is for a secondary carry, not primary.
A boot knife is for a secondary carry, not primary.
30mag
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Right.
8830
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I've carried boot knives as a backup. They are accessible while driving or sitting in a chair but in a fight it would be a last resort type thing.
I carried a boot knife for years , however, this was with lace up combat boots. It was always a small knife such as a Gerber Guardian or Russell Sting, always on the inside of the boot, left leg and left side of the leg, a little to the rear. It was very easy and quick to access and no discomfort in carrying . I tried carrying a boot knife in cowboy or rancher type boots, no joy. The weight of the knife was always shifting and bouncing around.
Carl Levitian
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I too tried carrying a Gerber Guardian in a lace up boot. While it was secure with the twin velcro staps I had securing it, getting to it was a royal pain in the rear anatomy. Given modern day dress codes of jeans or docker style pants, getting the pant leg up out of the way was the fly in the pudding. A royal pain at best. And while wearing sneakers or low cut shoes like Rockports, even with the velcro secured nylon web straps, it just would work around.
I ended up giving the Gerber away and abandoned the idea.
I ended up giving the Gerber away and abandoned the idea.
I found a boot knife to be very uncomfortable to carry in a cowboy boot. A boot knife with a decent length blade is also long.
I prefer carrying a knife like a Cold Steel Voyager. Benchrest makes some excellent folders. I can get a four inch blade in a much smaller package.
I prefer carrying a knife like a Cold Steel Voyager. Benchrest makes some excellent folders. I can get a four inch blade in a much smaller package.
Guillermo
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on the occasion when I wear my wellingtons I usually have a knife in there. it is at worst a secondary knife, usually tertiary, oft quaternary in the hierarchy of accessibility
zignal_zero
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as a secondary, i can kind of see the point (barely). it'd be nice to have things where they could be more easily reached, if you end up in the fetal position (getting stomped on).
i wouldn't do it, but i wouldn't hang a knife around my neck either.
my idea of a "boot knife" would be a blade that protruded from the toe of my boot. now, that seems like it could be usefull, but i'd never actually use one simply because it seems like an unsafe PITA
i wouldn't do it, but i wouldn't hang a knife around my neck either.
my idea of a "boot knife" would be a blade that protruded from the toe of my boot. now, that seems like it could be usefull, but i'd never actually use one simply because it seems like an unsafe PITA
Smith
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That made me chuckle.
I've never had to worry about how to carry a boot knife because my state doesn't allow them
Wolfebyte
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carried a Gerber in my cowboy boots for over 20 years. left inside. even had the repair shop add some extra leather to stiffen it up.
it's a back up carry. if you get down, it's a smooth motion to draw as you are getting back up, sitting down, it's right below the reach of your finger tips. crossing your leg puts your knife sitting in your lap, concealed until you need it..
it's a back up carry. if you get down, it's a smooth motion to draw as you are getting back up, sitting down, it's right below the reach of your finger tips. crossing your leg puts your knife sitting in your lap, concealed until you need it..
Black Toe Knives
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i carry a boot knife inside my pants with the clip hidden by my belt. The sheath is deep enough to hold most of the handle with just the lanyard sticking out.
Telesway
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Seems like a "hardware"-oriented (focusing on gear) instead of "software"-oriented viewpoint (focusing on skills and application) is quite common. Am I mistaken?
I carry a knife in my boot but it's for groundfighting/FUTting, not a primary weapon. If someone takes me down and gets into the mounted position (heck, even into my guard, sidecontrol, n/s or backmount) it might very well be impossible for me to reach my front pockets or beltline. In such a position the boot knife is very much accessible and your assailant probably won't even notice it when you pull it if you know what to do when on your back with a guy on top, trying to punch your face in. It'll get messy though...
I carry a knife in my boot but it's for groundfighting/FUTting, not a primary weapon. If someone takes me down and gets into the mounted position (heck, even into my guard, sidecontrol, n/s or backmount) it might very well be impossible for me to reach my front pockets or beltline. In such a position the boot knife is very much accessible and your assailant probably won't even notice it when you pull it if you know what to do when on your back with a guy on top, trying to punch your face in. It'll get messy though...
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