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Bow hunting During Modern?!?!?

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AR-yoter

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I had a buddy tell me it was ok so i called our local game warden and sure enough you can hunt muzzle and bow during modern... though i dont think its a good idea i like to have that option... its been my experience that a deer expires a little faster with a bow.. but i dont wanna have a 30-40y shot when everyone else is 100-300 :banghead:
 
In washington we can use any weapon to harvest our animal during modern season this meaning a bow,crossbow,muzzloader or modern rifle the reason for this is that some game units require use of anything but a rifle due to alot of people living in that unit. look on pg 17 in the big game pamplet or pg 68-69.
 
Well the definition of a "well placed shot" for many folks is heart/lung..., and some bullets do not rupture the lungs fast enough to cause the animal to drop in less distance than when the same area is hit by a broadhead, or large caliber patched round ball or minnie ball. My father and his friends regularly tracked deer about 50 to 100 yards when using their .30-30 and .35 Remington rifles after shots at 100 yards or less, and the shots were properly placed. Today, though rifles have been prohibited from where they used to hunt.

I have never had to do that with my flintlock, with the farthest track being 55 yards in the past ten years. The archery instructor for my local hunter safety teaching team has not had a deer fall farther than fifty yards as well.

Some folks though are very good shots, and a head or spine/neck shot from a rifle or slug drops the deer literally where they are standing. :D Some folks too, have hit upon an excellent bullet choice, and do not have long tracking problems. BUT, as I pointed out above, there are lots of hunters who have experienced shorter tracking distances when using a bow instead of a rifle.

It's a myth that in "modern gun/rifle season" that bow hunters are at a disadvantage, all other things being equal. Now in the beginning, the bow season put less hunters into the woods, and it was the first open deer season (in most states) so it gave the bow hunters an advantage, especially on public lands. However, on the different pieces of private property where I hunt, bow hunters continue through the regular season to harvest deer. In fact the ones that have property that borders public land do better, for the public lands are overhunted, and force deer to the bowhunters on the private lands.

I shoot BP flintlock during regular season, and have no disadvantage. I don't normally hunt deer with a modern firearm.

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The only problem I'd see with it is that here, when bow hunting, its full camo etc...but during rifle season, if you're anywhere near public hunting land, you wear at least a blaze hat to go to your mailbox (too many idiots out there) To me, when bow hunting, I'd want every advantage I can get to get the deer within my effective range, but you won't catch me out in the woods without blaze during rifle season....but to each his own I guess, if you're not worried about somebody cracking off a shot at anything that moves (especially when heading to or from your stand, it happens every year) then go for it, but i do love shooting my rifle
 
Not in MO? You may hunt with any approved method including bow
during modern rifle season. As for the OP on bow kill time, its fast enough! I
can't figure out why people are so concered about a couple extra moments it might
take for a deer to die from a certain caliber, or bow shot? There are so many variables
and conditions that determin the time it takes them to drop. The goal is to kill it so it
can be consumed.
 
The only problem I'd see with it is that here, when bow hunting, its full camo etc...but during rifle season, if you're anywhere near public hunting land, you wear at least a blaze hat to go to your mailbox (too many idiots out there)
Agreed. We can bowhunt during modern rifle season here in AZ too (during any season, actually), but this same thing occurred to me. Idk if I'd want to be out still-hunting with a bow, in full camo, during the most popular hunting seasons in this state, when the woods are full of idiots with guns. Not that every hunter with a rifle is an idiot - just saying, when you take a big group of people, there's gonna be at least a few idiots in the bunch.

Also, RE-15, I don't think the OP's concern was kill time with a bow vs gun. From what I understood, he doesn't like his odds of being successful during a time when a huge majority of the hunters are going to be able to shoot up to 300 yards, when he'll be limited to about 35.
 
In Arkansas, you can continue to hunt with archery equipment during modern gun season. There is a new week long, doe only, modern gun hunt at the beginning of November this season. If you want to take a buck, you have to do it with a bow, so I'll actually be bowhunting when modern gun is open this year. I'm not going to go with my rifle and have to watch a buck. I know how my luck goes. That's when the big boy would step out.
 
Yes be sure to wear your orange. During rifle season I have brought and used
a bow and rifle on a hunt. I took the bow shot first and then followed up with
rifle for the ones a little fruther out. This is legal here only during rifle season with a
firearm tags. I at least carry a pistol for the close up shots, I hate to use a rifle when
a deer is within 20 yards.
 
If you want to hunt with a bow, hunt with a bow. My bow will be going with me hunting this year during general season because I want to get a bear with my bow, this year that is more important to me that filling any other tag. Do I feel like I should hunt with a rifle because everybody else is and I am limited to 40 yds? No, I want to get a bear with my bow. I almost had my tag filled but didn't feel I had an ethical shot even when the bear was 5 yds from me and we had eye contact, I could have drawn my handgun and filled my tag, but what is the fun in that?
 
What are some of your opinions on that blaze orange camo? I used to see it in stores everywhere this time of year, not to mention ads in hunting mags, but I haven't seen it anywhere lately. I never bought any, but it always seemed like a decent idea to me.

I would imagine it works at least decent for colorblind animals like coyotes, but maybe not? Are deer colorblind? /noob

CamoBlazeOrange.jpg

Something like this ^
 
^^^ I can't comment on the effectiveness of the blaze camo, but yes, deer are color blind.
 
Not in MO? You may hunt with any approved method including bow
during modern rifle season. As for the OP on bow kill time, its fast enough! I
can't figure out why people are so concered about a couple extra moments it might
take for a deer to die from a certain caliber, or bow shot? There are so many variables
and conditions that determin the time it takes them to drop. The goal is to kill it so it
can be consumed.
CSR 10-7.432 Deer: Archery Hunting
Season
PURPOSE: This rule establishes the archery
deer hunting season, limits, and provisions
for hunting.
(1) The archery deer hunting season is September
15 through January 15, excluding the
November portion of the firearms deer hunting
season. Use archery methods only;
firearms may not be possessed with the following
exceptions (Firearms possessed under
these exceptions may not be used to take
wildlife while archery hunting. Proof of this
exception must be carried while hunting.):
 
In CO that jacket would not be legal. Has to be 500 sq in of solid blaze orange, usually a vest and a hat meet the legal requirement. Deer and Elk are color blind so it is only there to alert other hunters to your presence, kind of sad that we need it. What Deer and Elk see very good is movement, they hear even better. But they taste great ;)

I believe in CO it is legal to hunt in Rifle season with a Bow or Muzzle Loader as long as you have the correct tag for the correct season. So even if you use a bow you'd still have to have a rifle season tag. If I remember correctly...
 
In CO that jacket would not be legal. Has to be 500 sq in of solid blaze orange, usually a vest and a hat meet the legal requirement. Deer and Elk are color blind so it is only there to alert other hunters to your presence, kind of sad that we need it. What Deer and Elk see very good is movement, they hear even better. But they taste great ;)

I believe in CO it is legal to hunt in Rifle season with a Bow or Muzzle Loader as long as you have the correct tag for the correct season. So even if you use a bow you'd still have to have a rifle season tag. If I remember correctly...
Not legal in MO. either, has to be solid blaze orange & headgear to match.
 
In Idaho we call it any weapon season. Any thing legal to hunt deer with is legal to harvest a deer or elk with during the any weapon season. The thing I find interesting is that during our archery season you have to have a archery permit, or in a BP hunt you have to have a BP permit, yet in any weapon season you do not need these permits.
 
They do the archery permit so that those of us who archery hunt have to take a Bow Hunter ed course. It makes sure that new bow hunters have an idea of what they are getting themselves into.

Plus they give archers an advantage by letting us have more liberal hunting opportunities as well as a season advantage. They plan our hunt based on when the Elk usually rut, which is usually the last part of the bow season. Plus it lets us hunt when it is easy to travel the woods without a snowmobile since archery requires you to get close.

Plus in 90% + of our units you can take either sex (antlered non antlered as they term it)
 
I believe you are fine using whatever you want to during the regular gun season for deer assuming it is okay where you are hunting. Sometimes the regulations vary in the WMA's from the overall state requirements. Just be aware of the blaze orange requirements regardless of what you are using in the regular season.

I personally would not choose to bow hunt during the general deer season which is often called modern or rifle. But I do choose a revolver these days which does limit my range somewhat.
 
303Tom what is your point? The OP is refering to regular firearm season. When it is firearm season you may use any method, even a bow to fill your rifle tags (your not archery hunting during this portion). You may not use your archery tags during Nov firearm. You found one reg. Just keep reading, check firearm season methods. I have to argue this point every year along with concealed carry during archery. Yes I carry concealed with a 15 round mag while bow hunting and it is legal.
 
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During the regular rifle-use season, SFAIK muzzle-loaders and bows can also be used. No restrictions.

I've yet to hear of any state restricting primitive methods during the regular season.

If anybody's state has such a restriction, start a thread about that.
 
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