Brady Bunch et. al. are marginalized and dilusional!

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Here's what they say, failing to recognize a loss:

In its decision in McDonald v. City of Chicago, the U.S. Supreme Court reaffirmed its language in District of Columbia v. Heller that the Second Amendment individual right to possess guns in the home for self-defense does not prevent elected representatives from enacting common-sense gun laws to protect communities from gun violence.

The Court has rejected the gun lobby argument that its ‘any gun, for anybody, anywhere’ agenda is protected by the Constitution. The Court again recognized that the Second Amendment allows for reasonable restrictions on firearms, including who can have them and under what conditions, where they can be taken, and what types of firearms are permissible.

The Brady Center, joined by several national law enforcement groups, filed a friend of the court brief urging the Court to interpret the Second Amendment to allow for “reasonable” gun laws.

In McDonald v. City of Chicago, the Court determined that the Second Amendment applies to state and local laws.

http://www.bradycampaign.org/

I tell ya, they just have no credibility.
 
LOL

That reminds me of an old Cold War era joke, where Pravda reports the results of a two-car race between a Russian and an American, with the American winning:

"The Russian car came in second. The American was next to last."
 
Yeah! the law is winning! lol why do people have to go against the 2nd Amendment.. How dumb are you?
 
Lemonade for all five staff of the Brady Campaign!

I tell ya, you gotta appreciate optimism in the face of overwhelming adversity even if it's from the bad guys.


Love the Cold War joke, BTW.
 
I tell ya, they just have no credibility.

What they DO have, is one heck of a good fundraising position:

"Dear Mr. Clueless:

"OH MY GAWD!

"The Mongol hordes are at the gates of Chicago!

"And if you don't help me stop with The Big, Bad NRA with your most generous contribution of $MRCx3 TODAY then the STREETS WILL RUN RED WITH BLOOD!!!!!!!"

In the world of political fundraising, the best possible thing that could happen to the cause you're trying to raise $ for, is to be thrown under the bus.

And vice-versa.

Their fundraising copywriters will have a ball with this. And I bet it will work.

I wouldn't write their obituary any time soon.
 
Their fundraising copywriters will have a ball with this. And I bet it will work.

Dunno, they are in pretty big trouble. This shows it pretty well, and it stops at 2008. It's only gotten worse.


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"And if you don't help me stop with them with your most generous contribution of $MRCx3 TODAY then the STREETS WILL RUN RED WITH BLOOD!!!!!!!"

Well, it's a pretty safe bet that Chicago will see a shocking number of murders in the months after the ruling.

...just like last month...

...and the months before that...
 
Dunno, they are in pretty big trouble. This shows it pretty well, and it stops at 2008. It's only gotten worse.

Ah, statistics...

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But maybe it's true: We should all pack up our stuff, give up our NRA memberships, stop paying attention to the 2A debate and go on home. After all, the war is WON and the enemies of the 2A are on the ropes.

</sarcasm off>
 
The Brady Center, joined by several national law enforcement groups, filed a friend of the court brief urging the Court to interpret the Second Amendment to allow for “reasonable” gun laws.

LOL!

What they're not saying there is that they didn't file a "friend of the court brief" on the side of Chicago; instead they filed a brief supporting neither side.

Guess they figured it might be better for morale and publicity that they chose not to side with an obvious loser.
 
It's like the Japanese announcing after the Battle of Midway that their aircraft carriers were in a hidden location (the bottom of the ocean), untouchable by American forces.
 
LOL

That reminds me of an old Cold War era joke, where Pravda reports the results of a two-car race between a Russian and an American, with the American winning:

"The Russian car came in second. The American was next to last."

Awesome.

I'm not as worldly....

Statistics dont mean anything, 83% of people know that. - Homer Simpson
 
But maybe it's true: We should all pack up our stuff, give up our NRA memberships, stop paying attention to the 2A debate and go on home. After all, the war is WON and the enemies of the 2A are on the ropes.

I don't think anyone said that. Brady has lost it's major financial backers. They are not, and have never been, the only game in town however.

Maybe turn the sarcasm knob down a bit, no point in that.

And by the way, FEC filings are not "statistics" for those of you hung up on that.
 
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We should all pack up our stuff, give up our NRA memberships, stop paying attention to the 2A debate and go on home.

Great snark. Your point is very well taken. From a strategic perspective, we've just won a major legislative victory. Correct - this is no time to slack off; now is when we want to press our advantage and use this momentum to finish off the Brady Bunch for good. It means we have to keep the pressure on and if anything fight even harder. Molon Labe.
 
VPC said "...The gun lobby and gunmakers are seeking nothing less than the complete dismantling of our nation’s gun laws in a cynical effort to try and stem the long-term drop in gun ownership and save the dwindling gun industry..."

But in a truly powerful case of double-speak, they continued by saying "It is our hope that Chicago’s citizens will follow the lead of the residents of the District of Columbia--who were stripped of their handgun ban in the wake of the Supreme Court’s June 2008 decision...The citizens of DC reject the wrong-headed notion that more guns make us safer."

http://www.vpc.org/press/1006chi.htm
 
You know, maybe it's my military training. Or maybe it's just that I'm a codger who's been around the block a few times. But, I think it's always dangerous to rejoice in the defeat of your enemy. About the time you start your victory dance, a sniper takes you out, leaving your compatriots slack-jawed.

The Brady Campaign may reincarnate itself under a different name. The VPC and Mayors Against Illegal Guns, the latter funded by a billionaire, are very active. The decline of the Brady organization is by no means that those with an anti-civil rights agenda have gone away. They will use emotional outrage over McDonald to raise funds and try to whip the masses into an anti-gun frenzy.

No rejoicing. Keep pressing forward. The war over our Constitutional rights is far from over.
 
They will use emotional outrage over McDonald to raise funds and try to whip the masses into an anti-gun frenzy.

I'm just not convinced anyone cares at this point, out in the general population. Heller came and went with barely any notice to the "common guy", this one is even more boring to them.

Most people have always assumed the Bill of Rights applied to the states too, mainly out of common sense.

There's just not much here for them to get the masses worked up about.
 
I'm just not convinced anyone cares at this point, out in the general population. Heller came and went with barely any notice to the "common guy", this one is even more boring to them.

Maybe not in Texas, but here in Chicago--and I'd venture to guess in places like New York and California--this is big news, the leading story of all the local news channels and front page of the major newspapers (not that anyone reads anymore).
 
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=Q13

found this interesting...

Gun rights groups favor Republicans with their cash—and give a whole lot more of it than gun control supporters.

In the 2008 election cycle, gun rights advocates gave parties and candidates 41 times more than their opponents ($2.4 million versus $57,900) and spent 34 more times on lobbying in 2008 ($3.9 million versus $115,000)...
 
Maybe not in Texas, but here in Chicago--and I'd venture to guess in places like New York and California--this is big news, the leading story of all the local news channels and front page of the major newspapers (not that anyone reads anymore).

Right, but is anyone understanding it, and will it change what they think? Is it going to motivate the masses for or against guns? I'm not talking about the media, I'm talking about the average guy in the street and his interest level in this.

A week from now no one will be talking about it at all. Heller was the same. The general populations interest in anti gun stuff is pretty low. They can try to work them into a frenzy but it's just not high on the list for the "common guy" right now.

The idea that MacDonald will reinvigorate the anti gun movement just doesn't seem to hold much water.
 
Right, but is anyone understanding it, and will it change what they think? Is it going to motivate the masses for or against guns? I'm not talking about the media, I'm talking about the average guy in the street and his interest level in this.

You have a point. There's little real understanding of the legal reasoning or implications, even among well-educated people I know. I think it's incumbent on those who are active in pro-RKBA arena to recast the debate in terms that have a more visceral appeal.

How do you do that? Well, I think you describe it in terms of a "fundamental civil right." You get the word out about how the Fourteenth Amendment was a response to local efforts to discriminate against minorities. You talk about a culture of empowerment, as opposed to a culture of victimization.

So, yes, I agree that the nuances of Constitutional law will be lost on most. However, I think that the Supreme Court's reaffirmation of a fundamental civil right in the Second Amendment can be described in a way that will animate a great many who have been marginally interested.
 
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