Brady Campaign: U.S. Supreme Court Deals Major Blow to NRA's Extremist View of the 2A

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U.S. Supreme Court Deals Major Blow to NRA's Extremist View of the Second Amendment

Court Denies Review of Key Gun Case


Washington, D.C. - This morning, the United States Supreme Court refused to hear a Second Amendment challenge to California's strongest-in-the-nation Assault Weapons Ban. The High Court's action leaves undisturbed an earlier ruling by the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, in Silveira v. Lockyer, upholding the California statute and ruling that the Second Amendment confers a right to possess and use firearms only in connection with state militia activities. The National Rifle Association had filed a "friend of the court" brief asking the U.S. Supreme Court to review the Silveira decision, but the Court has declined.

"The action of the United States Supreme Court today in denying review of the Ninth Circuit's ruling in Silveira v. Lockyer repudiates the extremist gun lobby and others who view the Second Amendment as a weapon against reasonable gun laws," said Dennis Henigan, Director of the Brady Center's Legal Action Project. "It remains true that never in our nation's history has a federal court struck down a gun law on Second Amendment grounds."

Since a panel of the Fifth Circuit broke from precedent two years ago in United States v. Emerson, to rule that the Second Amendment confers an individual right to firearms ownership, every federal district and appellate court ruling - more than 20 in all - has rejected its reasoning and the NRA's view, and has held that the Second Amendment does not provide individuals with a right to possess firearms absent a relationship with a state militia. Even the Fifth Circuit in the Emerson case, despite endorsing the individual rights view, upheld the particular gun law under attack. "With today's actions by the Supreme Court, the gun lobby continues its unbroken string of defeats in Second Amendment challenges to gun laws," Henigan added. "There is no more settled area of constitutional law."

The Supreme Court's refusal to hear the case comes as debate intensifies in the U.S. Congress over the expiration, in November of next year, of the federal Assault Weapon Ban. Due to a 10-year sunset provision in the federal statute, it will come to an end unless Congress acts to renew it. Said Mr. Henigan: "It is now settled that there is no constitutional right to own UZIs and AK-47s. The NRA's distortion of constitutional principles has been exposed for the fraud that it is."

The Silveira decision also marks the sixth defeat for legal challenges to California's Assault Weapons Ban, originally passed in 1989 and strengthened since. The NRA first challenged the Assault Weapon Act on Second Amendment grounds in 1989, shortly after the law was enacted following a massacre on a Stockton schoolyard in which 34 children were shot. The NRA's lawsuit, Fresno Rifle and Pistol Club v. Van de Kamp, was rejected by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. Although the NRA used the promise of a legal challenge to the law to raise money in mass fundraising appeals, the NRA simply dropped the case in 1992 rather than appeal it to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Since its inception in 1989, the Legal Action Project of the Brady Center has filed amicus curiae briefs in state and federal courts across the nation, defending gun laws and exposing the gun lobby's constitutional distortions. For more information about the Second Amendment, legal challenges to gun laws, and the Silviera case, visit the Legal Action Project's web site at http://www.gunlawsuits.org/
 
Ahhh more lies. But what else would we expect?

Denied Cert means just that.

It's not a win, it's not a loss, it's not even a tie. It's just that, nothing.

We still have "our decision" from the 5th circuit.

Nothing has changed, for the worse or the better.
 
"It is now settled that there is no constitutional right to own UZIs and AK-47s. The NRA's distortion of constitutional principles has been exposed for the fraud that it is."

Never has so much BS been read into a simple refusal of cert.

Nothing is "settled" by this. Sure the SC has let the 9th court's interpretation stand, but so does the 5th court's "pro individual rights" interpretation. The SC seems too scared of the consequences of siding with either, at the expense of a poor gentleman from California who will be punished for exercising his natural rights.
 
You know, of course it would only be a tie if THEIR case got denied.

The supreme court only judges a case to see if they will view it. Clearly there is no winner if the case is not seen. duh. There IS no case.

At least us 'gun nuts' use logic. Sometimes I really wonder about the opposite side's intelligence. I'm sure their intentions are good, but that doesn't change the fact that their laws and propaganda aren't helping anyone.
 
U.S. Supreme Court Deals Major Blow to NRA's Extremist View of the Second Amendment

Court Denies Review of Key Gun Case

So when the U.S. Supreme Court denied review of Emerson, was that a major blow to the Brady Campaign's extremist view of the Second Amendment?
 
They're dressing this up as some sort of victory; it's pretty pathetic. They don't have much to celebrate these days.

"Extremist" ... I have to laugh. It means what it says, you ninnies. You can howl all you want; you aren't fooling anyone. Not even yourselves.
 
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Funny, they probably believe the crap they write too.

Hate that use of the word "extremist."

Have another Cigarette, Brady.
 
Despite the exaggerations and hyperbole so typical of the Brady nutcases, they are in one sense right: the court did deal a blow to the Second Amendment. One can argue the legal aspects of what denying a cert means, but the simple fact is they looked at a case where a federal court stated in no uncertain terms that the 2nd Amendment is in no way, shape, or form an individual right, and they decided that there was nothing sufficiently odd or controversial about that to require SCOTUS deliberation.

Their silence speaks volumes. Of course, if someone can convince me that this was simply a brilliant tactical maneuver by the SCOTUS' 2nd Amendment defenders to deprive the anti-Freedom forces of a potential major victory because they felt the composition of the court was questionable, I'll gladly retract that, but I have seen no evidence presented to butress that argument.

We lost this one. For all their deliberate misrepresentations about the case, Brady is at least correct on that point.
 
One can argue the legal aspects of what denying a cert means, but the simple fact is they looked at a case where a federal court stated in no uncertain terms that the 2nd Amendment is in no way, shape, or form an individual right, and they decided that there was nothing sufficiently odd or controversial about that to require SCOTUS deliberation.

The very same SCOTUS also looked at a case where the Second was declared to be an individual right and decided that it too did not require further clarification.

The reason SCOTUS decided this way is because there is really not a split yet between circuit courts. The Fifth Circuit says individual and the Ninth circuit says collective; but under either decision not one of the existing federal laws has to change - so no conflict. Now should a ruling come down that a federal gun law is invalid because the Second Amendment is an individual right (say the CATO case in DC), there will be a solid basis for the Supreme Court to look at the issue again; but in the meantime, SCOTUS isn't going to step into such a controversial issue when no circuit court has yet to rule a law invalid over it.
 
...but in the meantime, SCOTUS isn't going to step into such a controversial issue when no circuit court has yet to rule a law invalid over it.
OF course not. It's only the little people that are going to jail over unjust laws as relates to type and configuration of a weapon... among other and sundry regulations.
 
but in the meantime, SCOTUS isn't going to step into such a controversial issue when no circuit court has yet to rule a law invalid over it.

Not buying it. My opinion remains unchanged. Fact: 9th Circuit ruled that the 2nd is not an individual right. It was so stated in black and white. Fact: SCOTUS decided there was nothing problematic enough with that assessment to take the case.

Am I to uderstand from you post that the SCOTUS is never allowed to take any case that could overturn an unconstitutional law until a Circuit decision first saw fit to find the law unconstitutional?
 
First, I'm not a lawyer - I'm just giving my opinion from what small basis of law I do have an understanding of. Second, even among lawyers you can get a wide range of opinion - note the discord between Roy Lucas (a fairly noted lawyer) and Stephen Halbrook (another noted lawyer) on Second Amendment strategy - this despite the fact that both had argued and won cases before SCOTUS.

Not buying it. My opinion remains unchanged.

Fact: 5th Circuit ruled that the 2nd is an individual right. It was so stated in black and white. Fact: SCOTUS decided there was nothing problematic enough with that assessment to take the case.

If you are going to look at the facts; make sure you are looking at all of the relevant facts and not just a select portion.

Am I to uderstand from you post that the SCOTUS is never allowed to take any case that could overturn an unconstitutional law until a Circuit decision first saw fit to find the law unconstitutional?

SCOTUS rarely steps in unless circuit courts are in conflict. Right now, they aren't in conflict. If you know of a case where SCOTUS stepped in and declared a law unconstitutional when all of the circuit courts agreed it was constitutional, I'd be both interested and surprised to see it.
 
Personally I'm glad this SCOTUS didn't rule on this case. You want to lay odds on how they would have effed the 2nd if they did take it? Conservative court my ???!

By the way, the whole purpose of the BOR was to take our natural rights out of the political arena. All rights in the BOR are, by definition until the end of Man, individual rights. All this hub-bub about individual vs. collective :)scrutiny: ) rights is so much elite media manfactured BS. Most of them are either stupid or willfully ignorant of history and the origin of our nation.
 
.Right now, they aren't in conflict.

Somehow I think if the 9th Circuit had made a ruling that "The First Amendment is a State right, not an individual right, and therefore state law X banning individuals from criticizing govt officials cannot be invalidated under the First Amendment", the USSC would have addressed the case post haste, conflict or no.

Of course, maybe you are absolutely right. Maybe the USSC couldn't care less about the Constitution unless "conflict" between courts arises.
 
Why doesn't Angel Shamaya chime in on this and tell us why they denied cert? He was so sure they would when Gorski originally filed this. He was positively insulting to those who said they would never hear this case. Turns out his observations are as useless as mine. Only difference is, I don't have a web site that begs for cash for such amazing predictions.
 
Somehow I think if the 9th Circuit had made a ruling that "The First Amendment is a State right, not an individual right, and therefore state law X banning individuals from criticizing govt officials cannot be invalidated under the First Amendment", the USSC would have addressed the case post haste, conflict or no.

The USSC would have addressed the case precisely because of conflict - because not only would such a ruling be in conflict with every one of the other circuit courts, it would also be in conflict with many Supreme Court precedents on the subject.

Maybe the USSC couldn't care less about the Constitution unless "conflict" between courts arises.

Read this link:
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/about/about.html

It will help you understand the procedures involved much better. I particularly recommend this link:

http://www.supremecourtus.gov/ctrules/rulesofthecourt.pdf

See Part III: Jurisdiction on Writ of Certiorari (what was denied in this particular case we are discussing) with special attention to Rule 10.
 
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