Brady Center sues over new "Physician Gag Law"

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What's their chance of over-turning this law?






Case in point is Marines and soldiers who maybe coming back with PTSD issues receiving treatment at the VA.



They could be ones to easily lose their 2nd Amendment rights for merely having a rough spot in their lives.



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We wouldn't want to trample over anything in the Bill of Rights now would we? Noooooo sir.

But the American Academy of Pediatrics, a party to the suit, claimed the law would do harm because pediatricians should be able to provide "anticipatory guidance" to prevent injury to children.
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What's stopping a doctor saying "Mr. and Mrs. Smith, if you are interested here is some information on gun safety and children. Would you like me to answer any questions?"

Groundbreaking isn't it?
 
Aren't the vast majority of gun owners smart and responsible to know that guns and young kids shouldn't mix unsupervised? I'm certain that none of you would willingly do something negligent to pose a threat to your progeny.
 
There is no law that says you have to give a truthful answer to your doctor if they ask if you own guns. And we all know what happened to that one lady in Florida who gave a truthful answer; the doctor let her go and wouldn't be her doctor anymore. So since there is no law that says you have to be truthful, then:

Doctor: Do you have guns in the house?

Patient who owns an arsenal: Nope.

Problem solved.
 
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We wouldn't want to trample over anything in the Bill of Rights now would we? Noooooo sir.



What's stopping a doctor saying "Mr. and Mrs. Smith, if you are interested here is some information on gun safety and children. Would you like me to answer any questions?"

Groundbreaking isn't it?
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If my doctor were to do that, the next time I had a plumbing problem, or pest control problem, etc., I'd call and ask her for help with it.

When she asked why I thought I should call her for help I'd let her know that either of those situations had a lot more to do with my health than gun ownership, so I figured she'd want to "help" on those fronts as well.

-Matt
 
Should your doctor be able to ask you questions about other things covered in The Bill of Rights such as your political opinions or your religious beliefs in order to evaluate your mental health or suitability to raise children?
 
Case Background

It should be remembered that the law didn't just fall out of the sky.

The impetus to write and pass the law came from actual documented cases of abuse of trust and boundary violations.

For those unfamiliar with those terms, I offer Timothy Wheeler, MD.

 
If my doctor were to do that, the next time I had a plumbing problem, or pest control problem, etc., I'd call and ask her for help with it.

When she asked why I thought I should call her for help I'd let her know that either of those situations had a lot more to do with my health than gun ownership, so I figured she'd want to "help" on those fronts as well.

-Matt
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The way I worded my suggestion I tried to imply that doctors could offer it if the patient were interested. I didn't mean to suggest that doctors just flat out hand gun safety pamphlets to parents of children. To do so would be uncool. I'd have no problem though if a doctor said something like "If you are interested I can give you pamphlets on gun safety and children". Maybe suggest it ONCE with new patients. If the parents say no then that would just be the end of it and the doctor should never ask again.

I have no problems with doctors trying to educate parents on ways of helping keep kids safe from guns in the home. Perhaps advertise a website on a poster in the lobby, or simply leave pamphlets in the waiting room. Doctors have ways to do it without invading anyone's privacy.

If it's not relevant to any medical care you may receive, what does it matter?
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I agree gun ownership wouldn't be relevant for most health concerns. I'd rather doctors not flat out ask either. I probably would decline to answer rather than flat out lie.

I like this Florida law. I wish it were in Illinois.
 
"A Lady"

A lady, moreover, with military and law enforcement training.

Someone who was, in fact, more competent in matters of gun safety than her doctor would ever be.

The doctor was dabbling in an area outside and well beyond his competence, but squarely in the middle of hers.

(BTW, her on-air interview with Tom Gresham on GunTalk can be found in his audio archives.)

 
...what sparked this all off was a lady that did just that and her Dr told her to find another physician for her children.
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That sounds like two people exercising their individual Constitutional rights. Doctors, (or ditch diggers or dog walkers) should have the right to ask their clients just about anything they feel like. The clients can choose to answer or not or find a new physician (or Linear Excavation Technician or Canine Fecal Facilitator).

There doesn't need to be a law.
 
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LibShooter:



Dr's are in a position of power and authority, people feel inclined to answer their questions more then they normally would.



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LibShooter:



Dr's are in a position of power and authority, people feel inclined to answer their questions more then they normally would.
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Not to mention there are legal implications when it comes to doctors and mental health concerns. Especially these days.

So yes, doctors are like dog walkers in the sense that you can easily just look up a new doctor as you can a dog walker. However with the rabid anti gunners doing everything they can to ruin our lives we have to worry more about what doctors know about us than dog walkers.
 
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+1 Davey Wavey



What if doctors scared of being sued ask if you have a gun while you are in for a mental health screening, because of being scared of being sued they say you have mental issues and recommend you shouldn't own firearms.


Even if your guns aren't taken away immediately it could cause you to lose them at a later date or go against you in a court situation later.


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