Brand new handgun paperweight...A-Merc ammo?

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A friend of mine just bought a brand new handgun. He is sending it back to the factory right now so I don't want to give up the brand name but suffice it to say that it is a very nice, $800.00 9mm.

Anyway, he picked the firearm up from the shop/range and immediately took it into the bay to fire a couple of boxes of ammo. He said that on approximately the 8th round the weapon "misfired." He continued shooting. Half way through the second magazine the slide locked back and he couldn't get it to go forward. In fact, it had locked back past the slide stop.

Here's what I mean. If you pull your slide all the way back and then push the slide stop up, the slide goes forward about 1/8th of an inch to catch the stop. His didn't do this. It was stuck all the way back, past the stop.

Of course, he brought the handgun to me. I was able to get the slide to go forward but sure enough every time I pulled the slide back it stuck to the rear, past the slide stop (no, the magazine was not inserted). I also noticed that, with the slide to the rear, the barrel was immobile. Normally, with the slide to the rear on an autoloader, there would be some play in the barrel. There was not on this occasion.

I took the firearm apart and noticed that there was a slight bulge on the barrel, approximately 1/2 inch forward of the chamber. Examining it closer, this is exactly the point at which the front of the slide would get stuck when pulling it to the rear, also accounting for the barrel being immobile.

I asked him what kind of ammunition he had been firing and he showed me some A-Merc marked brass. Apparently, he had several hundred loose A-Merc rounds in a plastic bag that he got from a family member. Without the box, I could not give any more information on it than that (FMJ's).

While I have come across some A-Merc cases my knowledge of the ammunition is limited. I am a trainer and therefore come across some weird things but will never attest to being a gunsmith. However, while it technically could be the case which is why he is sending it back, I cannot imagine that this particular firearm is the root of the problem.

Does anyone else have any experience with A-Merc that might provide a clue?

...I'll post the make/model of firearm when it is prudent to do so, i.e. after he gets it back.
 
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I throw away all the A-Merc brass that I pick up because all I've examined has been out of spec. The flash holes are off-center, the necks are too thin, etc.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if one didnt have any powder (a squib.) The force of just the primer lodged the bullet into the barrel and your friend didn't notice, then he fired another round into the obstruction.

Don't most 9mm's have replaceable barrel? He may not be screwed as bad as he thinks. He also might try just turning (or filing) down the bulge just enough to provide clearance for the slide.
 
Dump the A-merc, buy some FACTORY ammo, get a new barrel and start over.

THEN if there's a problem, you can be pretty sure it's not ammo related.

Of course, if the gun "misfires," he should check the barrel to make sure the last bullet made it out!
 
It wouldn't surprise me at all if one didnt have any powder (a squib.)

I pretty much figured a squib, and he is probably not experienced enough to know any better than to forego checking and fire. The only variable I wasn't sure about was the A-Merc ammo.
 
So ...
... He bought a brand-new gun, didn't clean or inspect it, stuffed random junk ammo into it, and blames the problems on the factory?

Most likely the company will repair it, but they shouldn't.
 
"worse than junk"

So's their stock. Found on another board...

"They're still in business. My stock in them is now worth three cents a share, up from the penny it was recently. Still not great since I paid close to 20 cents. I own quite a bit of their stock for reasons that I don't want to go into. Anyway, Amerc ammo has a really bad reputation and has for years, being the famous "square bullet" people of lore (yes, it apparently really did happen). The stock spiked some time back when they got some government and foreign contracts, but then a new batch of contracts that were hoped for failed to appear, thus some people (like me) lost a lot of money on their stock instead of making any."
 
He said that on approximately the 8th round the weapon "misfired."

Sounds like he had a round that stuck a bullet in the barrel and didn't check to make sure the barrel was clear after his "misfire". The next round bulged the barrel.

Many shooters don't know that any time you have a misfire you need to check to make sure a bullet hasn't been deposited in your barrel before you shot any more rounds either by examining the extracted cartridge to see if the bullet is still in it or visually looking down the barrel. $800 is an expensive lesson but a lot cheaper than the same problem in a magnum caliber and having the barrel blow up potentially causing the shooter serious injury.
 
If firing a brand new firearm for the first time, do the following:

1. Clean it (remove factory grease).
2. Lube it.
3. Use factory ammo.
4. Once you are sure of the functionality of the firearm,you can use YOUR OWN handloads, not somebody else's.

Be safe out there,ya'll.
 
So ...
... He bought a brand-new gun, didn't clean or inspect it, stuffed random junk ammo into it, and blames the problems on the factory?

All correct except for blaming the factory part. Neither he nor I did that. And to be clear, he is not hiding anything from the factory either. He called and was very clear in what occurred. They asked for it to be sent back. If it is indeed his fault, he is a stand up guy and will pay for it.

While it certainly appears to be the case, especially now that I have a little more input from you all on the A-Merc ammo, nobody has decisively concluded that it was a squib or otherwise faulty ammunition. For that reason both I and the factory indicated that it should be sent back. Even if we knew without a doubt that it was the ammo, the gun would still be sent back to the factory. While my cursory inspection did not reveal any further damage, there may indeed be. In the event that it is not the ammunition but indeed is a defect on a very nice firearm, that should be known about as well.

We were just trying to get to the bottom of it and that's what led to the A-Merc question.

For the record, I have schooled him on the proper care and use of a new firearm. In return, he is no longer putting off attending one of my classes.

By the way, if anybody is interested, I know of about 400 rounds of loose A-Merc ammo for sale. Real cheap. Going once...
 
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That stuff is AWFUL. As RogersPrecision said, it is hazardous. Way back when, before I knew about how bad it was I put it through my Glock 19. The brass would get jammed in the chamber and had to be forced out with the cleaning rod. I couldn't get through a dozen before I wised up. It's still lying around somewhere. That garbage also chipped my extractor which still worked okay, but had to be replaced.

Many years later, my brother got sold some for a premium price (I was not there with him) from a shady salesman named Zack at Canyon Sports in Martinez, CA who knowingly lied about it being "quality". It nearly ruined his gun. Later he tried to return the remainder to no avail of course.
 
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Apparently, he had several hundred loose A-Merc rounds in a plastic bag

I won't use the stuff, either, but for all we know, someone used A-Merc brass for their crap reloads.
 
H&K P30. $295 for a new barrel.

Ouch, I've been known to come by some good semi-autos for the price of that barrel.
 
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