Spec ops Grunt
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I've heard about these but never seen them outside Resident Evil 4 (a video game). So can anyone tell me about them? Are they good for lefties?
Break-open revolvers?
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otomik
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a few companies still make them
http://www.uberti.com/firearms/top-break.tpl
http://products.berettausa.com/frame_tabellaprodotti_2002.asp?sgmt=38&Model=Laramie
those are replicas of old smith and wesson russian military revolvers. webleys are also top break. i don't believe any modern top break revolvers are out there.
http://www.uberti.com/firearms/top-break.tpl
http://products.berettausa.com/frame_tabellaprodotti_2002.asp?sgmt=38&Model=Laramie
those are replicas of old smith and wesson russian military revolvers. webleys are also top break. i don't believe any modern top break revolvers are out there.
Standing Wolf
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Actually, I believe there's a Russian top-break revolver still in production. If it need be said, it's uglier than Stalin in a rotten mood.
Old Dude
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Saw one of those Uberti break-opens at a Cabela's last Friday. I like it. I want it. I'm not sure I can afford it....
A quick search on THR and TFL for "Smith and Wesson Schofield" will turn up a fair bit of info, including discussions on why the action hasn't (widely) been ported to a more modern revolver design.
As otomik mentioned, Schofield replicas are still in production.
http://www.google.com/search?lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=MP412 REX
This is the revolver Standing Wolf alluded to. I don't know if it ever made it past prototype status. None have been imported to the US, AFAIK. Probably never will be, which is kind of a shame. It looks interesting.
As otomik mentioned, Schofield replicas are still in production.
http://www.google.com/search?lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=MP412 REX
This is the revolver Standing Wolf alluded to. I don't know if it ever made it past prototype status. None have been imported to the US, AFAIK. Probably never will be, which is kind of a shame. It looks interesting.
sm
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Another example , still out there in the used market-
H&R 999 , a 9 shot break open revolver. Great shooter, pointed well, sights were good. Good looking gun. Just one had to keep an eye on rear sight and the hinge, by design would need tightening up.
Open that top and "pop" them 9 rds would go.
H&R 999 , a 9 shot break open revolver. Great shooter, pointed well, sights were good. Good looking gun. Just one had to keep an eye on rear sight and the hinge, by design would need tightening up.
Open that top and "pop" them 9 rds would go.
BluesBear
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Beretta has finally produced a hinged-frame S&W replica that ISN'T a Schofield.
But of course they're producing it in only two calibers.
Neither one of which was ever offered in the original S&W New Model 3. :banghead:
But then almost all of the Schofield replicas are incorrectly chambered as well.
But of course they're producing it in only two calibers.
Neither one of which was ever offered in the original S&W New Model 3. :banghead:
But then almost all of the Schofield replicas are incorrectly chambered as well.
otomik
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you'll notice I linked Uberti up there as well, Beretta and Uberti are both part of Beretta holdings and make a similar product. The Uberti version has a .44 Russian and .44-40 chambering, two from the original schofield.BluesBear said:Beretta has finally produced a hinged-frame S&W replica that ISN'T a Schofield.
But of course they're producing it in only two calibers.
Neither one of which was ever offered in the original S&W New Model 3. :banghead:
But then almost all of the Schofield replicas are incorrectly chambered as well.
otomik
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sounds good, I'd like to see something like that, kind of a schofield version of a ruger bearcatsm said:
unspellable
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left vs right
The Webley could be said to be a right handed gun as it has the thumb release lever on the left side. I've also seen top breaks that were symetrical from side to side and could be called ambidexterous.
The Webley could be said to be a right handed gun as it has the thumb release lever on the left side. I've also seen top breaks that were symetrical from side to side and could be called ambidexterous.
Giolli Joker
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Maybe this one?Standing Wolf said:
http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg49-e.htm
It's also the only polymer frame revolver I've ever seen.
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fulloflead
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They ALL break open if you load 'em up hot enough.
But seriously, that Beretta LARAMIE looks FANTASTIC! Wouldn't it be sweet if it were built (Ruger) tough enough to handle magnum-level 45 Colt loads? Wow.
But seriously, that Beretta LARAMIE looks FANTASTIC! Wouldn't it be sweet if it were built (Ruger) tough enough to handle magnum-level 45 Colt loads? Wow.
The hinged design is inherently weaker than a solid frame so I wouldn't look for any powerhouse calibers or loads recommended in such revolvers. The early S&Ws were top-break, as were H&R, Iver Johnson and some others. Webleys and Enfields abound in .38 S&W (British) and .455 but like the Sportsman 999 prices have gone through the roof recently.
I bagged a very nice Enfield .38 at a local show a few months ago for $100. It shoots .357" lead bullets (bore is .360 on the .38 S&W) quite well and is a hoot.
I bagged a very nice Enfield .38 at a local show a few months ago for $100. It shoots .357" lead bullets (bore is .360 on the .38 S&W) quite well and is a hoot.
Vern Humphrey
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Spec ops Grunt said:
Loading and unloading a revolver is a two-handed process, anyway, so with a little practice, you should be at no disadvantage (there are those who say the Colt Single Action was actually designed for left hand -- Sam Colt was left-handed.)
Manual of Arms for a left-handed shooter with a typical double-action revolver:
To unload:
1. Open your hand so the revolver is suspended from your left index finger, pointing up. You may keep your ring and little fingers behind the trigger guard to stabilize the gun.
2. Place your left thumb on the cylinder latch, while pressing on the cylinder with the right hand. Roll the cylinder out with the left thumb and right hand.
3. Depress the ejector rod with the left thumb while reaching for the speed loader with the right hand.
To load:
1. Rotate the revolver downward, while holding the cylinder between left thumb and forefinger.
2. Insert rounds into chambers and release from speed loader with right hand.
3. Press the cylinder closed the left thumb. Slide thumb back, and you are in firing grip again.
Work through slowly, and in a few tries you'll be amazed at how quick this is.
BluesBear
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Nope, nope, nope.otomik said:
The S&W Schofield was ONLY ever chambered in .45 S&W. The cylinder was too short for the longer Winchester cartridges.
As was the cylinder on the original S&W Model Three.
The S&W New Model Number 3, in addition to being chambered in .44 Russian, was also chambered in .44WCF and a few were chambered in .38WCF.
Neither gun was ever chambered in .45 Colt. The rim at that time was too small for reliable extraction.
However the New Model Number 3 has a complerely different frame latch.
The Schofield frame latch was mounted on the frame and latched onto the topstrap.
The Model Three latch was affixed to the topstrap and latched onto the frame.
The Schofield also had a square butt frame while the New Model Number Three was only produced as a round butt.
I guess you could call all of this nit-picking but it all depends on how much your want your replica to replicate.
BluesBear
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Regarding the Harrington & Richardson 999.
It is my all time favorite .22 rimfire plinking revolver.
With the ability to easily load everything from RWS BB caps and Aguila Colibris to CCI Stingers and Aguila 60gr SSSs it certainly versatile.
Nine shots and automatic extraction make it fast and fun.
But if that's not fast enough for you HKS even makes speedloaders for it.
(and yes they work just fine)
Now I'll admit the double action pull is mediorce at best. But the single action pull is quite good. Hitting an apple at 50-75 feet is an easy task even with the cheap bulk packed ammo.
So far I haven't found any ammo that is doesn't shoot well with.
Yes, the hinge gets loose enough to rattle of you shake the gun but I have found that no matter how much you tighten it the hinge always loosens itself.
But it loosens itself only to a point and then doesn't seem to ever get any looser. Sort of self leveling I guess.
It doesn't really matter since the sights, barrel and cylinder are all mounted together so accuracy doesn't suffer no matter how loose it gets.
Sights are adjustable so you can zreo it in for the ammo you use most.
Rear sight windage is controlled by two screws, one on each side of the blade.
To adjust the rear sight you loosen one side and tighten the other.
The two screws hole the blade in place so if you loosen one side too much the blade can fall out.
So you do need to make sure that both sides stay tight.
I have bought three rather cheaply because they didn't have a rear sight blade.
Luckily for me Numrich has a lot of them and they're only a couple of bucks each.
All it all it's a very fun gun and yes it is completely ambidexterious.
It is my all time favorite .22 rimfire plinking revolver.
With the ability to easily load everything from RWS BB caps and Aguila Colibris to CCI Stingers and Aguila 60gr SSSs it certainly versatile.
Nine shots and automatic extraction make it fast and fun.
But if that's not fast enough for you HKS even makes speedloaders for it.
(and yes they work just fine)
Now I'll admit the double action pull is mediorce at best. But the single action pull is quite good. Hitting an apple at 50-75 feet is an easy task even with the cheap bulk packed ammo.
So far I haven't found any ammo that is doesn't shoot well with.
Yes, the hinge gets loose enough to rattle of you shake the gun but I have found that no matter how much you tighten it the hinge always loosens itself.
But it loosens itself only to a point and then doesn't seem to ever get any looser. Sort of self leveling I guess.
It doesn't really matter since the sights, barrel and cylinder are all mounted together so accuracy doesn't suffer no matter how loose it gets.
Sights are adjustable so you can zreo it in for the ammo you use most.
Rear sight windage is controlled by two screws, one on each side of the blade.
To adjust the rear sight you loosen one side and tighten the other.
The two screws hole the blade in place so if you loosen one side too much the blade can fall out.
So you do need to make sure that both sides stay tight.
I have bought three rather cheaply because they didn't have a rear sight blade.
Luckily for me Numrich has a lot of them and they're only a couple of bucks each.
All it all it's a very fun gun and yes it is completely ambidexterious.
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