Bringing Non-Firearm Weapons into a Privately Owned Place That Says "No Weapons"?

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  1. GuyWithQuestions

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    My question involves law for the state of Utah and is about non-firearm weapons.

    The other day I went to the Energy Solutions Arena. It used to be called the Delta Center and its main purpose is where the Utah Jazz in the NBA play. I went there to go to a career fair. Hidden on me, I was carrying my beloved handgun, plus pepper spray, and one of those dart-firing air TASER guns, for self-defense. I have a Utah concealed firearms permit. The law doesn't prohibit you from carrying in sports arenas or public gatherings, provided you have the permit. However, it does say that a privately owned place may post a sign or tell you verbally not to carry firearms inside, and if you do, then it's a civil infraction. So when I approached the entrance of the Energy Solutions Arena, all over all of the glass doors I saw "NO WEAPONS NO WEAPONS" spaced every two feet. So it was quite obvious that a sign was reasonably placed and visible. So I had to walk all the way back to where I had parked to drop off all of my self-defense gear (I don't know how I'd survive if I went to a place like the UK since they restrict all self-defense devices), and then finally went back to the place. There were no metal detectors to get inside.

    My question is: The law says it's a civil infraction to bring firearms into a privately owned place that says no weapons, however are there any laws saying you can't bring in non-firearm weapons if a sign is posted? For example, if a place puts up a sign saying "No food or drink" and you sneak in food or drink, my guess would be there are no criminal penalties for bringing it in (for example a movie theatre), but they could tell you to leave if they caught you and if you refuse they could get you for trespassing. Would the same apply to bringing in a dart-firing air TASER and pepper spray into a privately owned place, or is there a Utah law for that that would get you in trouble?

    Just curious, thanks
     
  2. csmkersh

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    You need to talk to either the Utah State Police if they are the licensing authority, your lawyer or someone very familiar with civil statutes regarding weapons.
     
  3. Kharn

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    Most states allow you to be charged with trespassing if you violate the restrictions the venue has placed on entering.

    Kharn
     
  4. allank

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    Check state law. In Kansas it is a Class B misdemeanor for a CCW permit holder to carry into posted facilities.
     
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  5. Byron Quick

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    PM PvtPyle and ask him. He's in Salt Lake and in the gun business. He should know and you should visits FBMG. Most, if not all, of the employees are THR members.

    My spelling of his user name may not be exactly correct. If your PM bounces, check the member list.
     
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