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So, for those of you who have seen Brotherhood of the Wolf and that remember the custom made pistol (with the arm brace for single handed use) - does such a thing exist?
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armoredman
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The wha....?????
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Third_Rail said:
Haven't seen it, but most stuff out of Hollywood that's "wierd looking" is just a resin shell from the prop art department over whatever flashblank-firing reciever will fit in it.
That, or they just hack up military and commercial models and make castings of them. Everyone knows the Star Wars ones, but Spaceballs had some cosmetically altered Calicos, and Star Wars Episode I had Beeman match airguns with all sorts of scopes and junk affixed to them. Usually, the "hero" model, the one the characters actually fire, is a real weapon somewhat modified but with the action intact, and then there's lightweight foam castings, resin castings for extras, and hard-rubber castings for stunts where an actor might fall on or hit themselves with the gun.
The nuttiest non-gun they ever did as a prop was the "Logan's Run" guns, which for some reason, they thought would be a good idea to have as a carbide/water generator of acetylene gas, which was valved past a glow plug by pulling the trigger. They were lucky none blew up on the actors.
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VictorLouis
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I really liked that movie.
I cannot recall the pistol that you're speaking of, however.
I cannot recall the pistol that you're speaking of, however.
MatthewVanitas
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Gonic Arms used to make something just like that for the T/C Contender, but it seems that their website is kaput. Perhaps they've gone out of business.
The film "Brothergood of the Wolf" was outstanding: kind of a kung-fu-esque film set in 18th C. France, very dark and sinister cinematography. Kind of like it Tim Burton and John Woo got together.
One of the characters is a French aristocrat who was mauled by a lion while hunting in Africa. He owns a flintlock pistol, which has a long protruding extension from the grip which runs down his forearm and ends in a crescent a bit before his elbow. The idea being that the pistol is better supported because it's fulcrum is further back. It's hard to describe it with words, but really easy when you see it.
I think it's called something like a "wrist stock". Long/short, Gonic Arms used to make them for the T/C Contender, not sure who else made them.
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The film "Brothergood of the Wolf" was outstanding: kind of a kung-fu-esque film set in 18th C. France, very dark and sinister cinematography. Kind of like it Tim Burton and John Woo got together.
One of the characters is a French aristocrat who was mauled by a lion while hunting in Africa. He owns a flintlock pistol, which has a long protruding extension from the grip which runs down his forearm and ends in a crescent a bit before his elbow. The idea being that the pistol is better supported because it's fulcrum is further back. It's hard to describe it with words, but really easy when you see it.
I think it's called something like a "wrist stock". Long/short, Gonic Arms used to make them for the T/C Contender, not sure who else made them.
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Cosmoline
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Third_Rail said:
I've seen the movie, but only remember flintlock pistols. Can you dig up a pic?
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I've tried to get a picture, but I don't own the DVD and can't find a picture online.
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@JShirley: surely you jest! Sure, it wasn't Lawrence of Arabia or Twelve Angry Men, but it was a fun film overall. I like films covering obscure time periods, and you really don't see many action films set in 18thC. France.
On a gun note, there were some great gun scenes. Recall the scene in the garden where they train for the upcoming fight by wasting dozens of pumpkins with a table-full of smokepoles?
It didn't change my whole perspective on life, but it kept me engaged for two hours. I give it a strong recc as a fun JohnWoo/TimBurton-esque fusion.
@ThirdRail: maybe you'd get more responses if you started a new thread: "Wrist stock for pistol?" or somesuch. I _think_ it's called a wrist stock...
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On a gun note, there were some great gun scenes. Recall the scene in the garden where they train for the upcoming fight by wasting dozens of pumpkins with a table-full of smokepoles?
It didn't change my whole perspective on life, but it kept me engaged for two hours. I give it a strong recc as a fun JohnWoo/TimBurton-esque fusion.
@ThirdRail: maybe you'd get more responses if you started a new thread: "Wrist stock for pistol?" or somesuch. I _think_ it's called a wrist stock...
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I thought it was a poor French knock-off on the Hong Kong-style martial arts fantasy genre.
I confess to enjoying it, but it's not only not a great movie (like Thick as Thieves ), it's not even The Replacement Killers.
But it did have Monica Bellucci.
The "women" who were guys in drag, the unimaginative fight choreography, esp. early in the film, and the freaky guy with the regenerated hand took it just a "little" over the top. Hell, mystical wolf communication and poorly edited cyber-lions I could believe...
John
I confess to enjoying it, but it's not only not a great movie (like Thick as Thieves ), it's not even The Replacement Killers.
But it did have Monica Bellucci.
The "women" who were guys in drag, the unimaginative fight choreography, esp. early in the film, and the freaky guy with the regenerated hand took it just a "little" over the top. Hell, mystical wolf communication and poorly edited cyber-lions I could believe...
John
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But you have to admit...the Monica Belluci to snow covered mountains fade was the best fade ever!!
Working Man
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There was several points in the movie where it could have stopped and still
have been good. I think it tried way too hard and should have been made a
bit shorter.
And what was that thing? A panther in armor?
He had some kind of flintlock shooting ball ammo that he made the rounds
himself. I believe he stated it was specially made for him.
have been good. I think it tried way too hard and should have been made a
bit shorter.
And what was that thing? A panther in armor?
He had some kind of flintlock shooting ball ammo that he made the rounds
himself. I believe he stated it was specially made for him.
Working Man said:There was several points in the movie where it could have stopped and still
have been good. I think it tried way too hard and should have been made a
bit shorter.
And what was that thing? A panther in armor?
He had some kind of flintlock shooting ball ammo that he made the rounds
himself. I believe he stated it was specially made for him.
It was a lion.
steveracer
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WOW! what are you smoking?
Ok, it was a pretty good movie, considering it was French, and didn't have Jerry Lewis in it. It was not great by any definition.
The animal in question was a DOG, and had some strange armor added to it to increase it's size and the radius of its bite. (don't you guys speak French?)
The gun you're talking about was a flintlock pistol with an attatchment for one-handed shoulder-type firing, particularly useful when riding a horse. I have seen something similar at a museum in Nova Scotia, where it was mentioned that Scottish Cavalry had used it. A pretty good design to fire a carbine-sized weapon one handed from the traditional position.
You may recognize Mani from a couple of Jet Li movies, and of course, Monica Belicci is a special type of delicious.
Steve.
Ok, it was a pretty good movie, considering it was French, and didn't have Jerry Lewis in it. It was not great by any definition.
The animal in question was a DOG, and had some strange armor added to it to increase it's size and the radius of its bite. (don't you guys speak French?)
The gun you're talking about was a flintlock pistol with an attatchment for one-handed shoulder-type firing, particularly useful when riding a horse. I have seen something similar at a museum in Nova Scotia, where it was mentioned that Scottish Cavalry had used it. A pretty good design to fire a carbine-sized weapon one handed from the traditional position.
You may recognize Mani from a couple of Jet Li movies, and of course, Monica Belicci is a special type of delicious.
Steve.
Hey it was the best "American Indian doing kung-fu" in a French period piece I've ever seen...
That movie rocked. And it's based on a true story... the likely 'culprit was a wolf hybrid... in the movie it was a lion.
An armor plated lion!
Cool.
Did I mention French kung-fu?
That movie rocked. And it's based on a true story... the likely 'culprit was a wolf hybrid... in the movie it was a lion.
An armor plated lion!
Cool.
Did I mention French kung-fu?
Spoiler Alert...
Morangias had the firearm custom made to fit him by an armorer in Mende, France. He makes the silver bullets he shoots in it himself, because he likes to sign his shots. The silver bullet gave him away as Mani's killer when Fronsac dug the bullet out of Mani.
Cool bone like sword used at the end by Morangias. It could expand and retract itself.
Morangias had the firearm custom made to fit him by an armorer in Mende, France. He makes the silver bullets he shoots in it himself, because he likes to sign his shots. The silver bullet gave him away as Mani's killer when Fronsac dug the bullet out of Mani.
Cool bone like sword used at the end by Morangias. It could expand and retract itself.
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Just talked to my father in law - he's a master carpenter. He said "yeah, we can make that no problem."
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That absolutely will require a photo-filled writeup if you get that done.
What kind of firearm would you attach that to?
Bear in mind, if it's on a modern cartridge firearm, make sure that it can't be considered a shoulder stock, otherwise you have a lot of Fed paperwork to fill out.
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Most of the movie was fiction but it was based on true events of some wild animal or animals that killed over a dozen French peasants.
I thought the movie was interesting and I do not think the beast was ever showed without it's armor thou it was implied it may have been a lion.
It is not known what animal the Beast of Gevaudan, also known as La Bete was. Some thought it may have been a large wolf ,baboon or other exotic or prehistoric animal running around the French countryside.
After La Bete was killed it was sent to a museum. It is my understanding the remains were later destroyed , to bad it would be interesting to know what it really was.
CW
I thought the movie was interesting and I do not think the beast was ever showed without it's armor thou it was implied it may have been a lion.
It is not known what animal the Beast of Gevaudan, also known as La Bete was. Some thought it may have been a large wolf ,baboon or other exotic or prehistoric animal running around the French countryside.
After La Bete was killed it was sent to a museum. It is my understanding the remains were later destroyed , to bad it would be interesting to know what it really was.
CW
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It was a wolf
I've seen the movie a few times and I never questioned that it was anything other than a wolf, or a dog at least. I did not know that it was based on a true story, however. That's interesting.
I never got the impression that it was supposed to be a lion.
I've seen the movie a few times and I never questioned that it was anything other than a wolf, or a dog at least. I did not know that it was based on a true story, however. That's interesting.
I never got the impression that it was supposed to be a lion.
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I'm a big fan of the film, and have watched it a few times, and as much as I felt the creature was supposed to be a wolf hybrid or even a mutant hyena, there is a close up shot of it's eye before it dies which looks very feline?
And if you were to read into the story I would have assumed it was the cub of the lion that attacked the incestious french dude, but then again if I had a sister that looks like that, well.....
As for the firearm in question........ not a clue.
And if you were to read into the story I would have assumed it was the cub of the lion that attacked the incestious french dude, but then again if I had a sister that looks like that, well.....
As for the firearm in question........ not a clue.
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Just to sow more confusion, it seems people are discussing the two different versions of the film. The original was made back in the 70's or so (I think) and had a wolf as a beast iirc, the new one has the lion as the beast.
They're both good flicks if you take 'em as what they are meant to be; an action movie semi-adhering to a real life event. Though I will admit both make far more sense if you watch them in french. A lot is lost int he translation (not to mention the words not lining up with the mouth syndrome).
They're both good flicks if you take 'em as what they are meant to be; an action movie semi-adhering to a real life event. Though I will admit both make far more sense if you watch them in french. A lot is lost int he translation (not to mention the words not lining up with the mouth syndrome).
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I know, I will be accused of necromancy, but here I go, breathing life into this thread...
I'm now well into the planning stage of this project, buying materials and such - I've got barrels, locks, breechplugs, etc. for this, as it (they?) will be muzzleloaders. I finally managed to take some (low quality) pictures of what I'm talking about, too.
Gonic Arms is very much out of business, unfortunately. I was going to dredge up pictures of their stocks, but cannot find any!
Hopefully with the pictures, someone will be able to tell me the correct term for such a device.
So here are the three pictures from the film, sorry about the lack of quality.
I'm now well into the planning stage of this project, buying materials and such - I've got barrels, locks, breechplugs, etc. for this, as it (they?) will be muzzleloaders. I finally managed to take some (low quality) pictures of what I'm talking about, too.
Gonic Arms is very much out of business, unfortunately. I was going to dredge up pictures of their stocks, but cannot find any!
Hopefully with the pictures, someone will be able to tell me the correct term for such a device.
So here are the three pictures from the film, sorry about the lack of quality.
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